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9 total messages Started by liesl_beneke Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:00
80 Tigers are going to Die.
#6405
Author: liesl_beneke
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 00:00
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Please help us!  There are 80 tigers and leopards in Riverside County,
CA being held by animal control.  The plan, at this point, is to kill
the animals.  Please let your voice be heard and stop this terrible
action! The animals are healthy and have not harmed another animal or
a human being.  If you would like to lend your support, please either
fax California Governor Pete Wilson at 916-445-4633 or call his
Riverside office at 909-680-6860.  Or write to me at
Liesl_Beneke@juno.com
Re: 80 Tigers are going to Die.
#6400
Author: Corky Lipschitz
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 00:00
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In <5g9q08$sa11@news.iglobal.net> liesl_beneke@juno.com writes: 
>
>Please help us!  There are 80 tigers and leopards in Riverside County,
>CA being held by animal control.  The plan, at this point, is to kill
>the animals.  Please let your voice be heard and stop this terrible
>action! The animals are healthy and have not harmed another animal or
>a human being.  If you would like to lend your support, please either
>fax California Governor Pete Wilson at 916-445-4633 or call his
>Riverside office at 909-680-6860.  Or write to me at
>Liesl_Beneke@juno.com

If the state kills them, what's going to happen to the hides?

Mortalis
Re: 80 Tigers are going to Die.
#6401
Author: Cris Waller
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 00:00
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On Thu, 13 Mar 97 21:00:18 GMT, liesl_beneke@juno.com wrote:

>Please help us!  There are 80 tigers and leopards in Riverside County,
>CA being held by animal control.  The plan, at this point, is to kill
>the animals.  Please let your voice be heard and stop this terrible
>action! The animals are healthy and have not harmed another animal or
>a human being.  If you would like to lend your support, please either
>fax California Governor Pete Wilson at 916-445-4633 or call his
>Riverside office at 909-680-6860.  Or write to me at
>Liesl_Beneke@juno.com

Perhaps you can give us a little more information? I live in San
Diego, and haven't heard of this situation. Where did the cats come
from? Why are they going to be killed? When is this supposed to
happen? What are we asking Wilson to do with them instead? Are groups
like Shambala Preserve and Paws involved?

I think it will be easier to "do something" if we know what exactly we
are doing something about.
Cris Waller
CrisW@ix.netcom.com

"I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person"
Re: 80 Tigers are going to Die.
#6402
Author: Edmond Plummer
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 00:00
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Cris Waller wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 13 Mar 97 21:00:18 GMT, liesl_beneke@juno.com wrote:
> 
> >Please help us!  There are 80 tigers and leopards in Riverside County,
> >CA being held by animal control.  The plan, at this point, is to kill
> >the animals.  Please let your voice be heard and stop this terrible
> >action! The animals are healthy and have not harmed another animal or
> >a human being.  If you would like to lend your support, please either
> >fax California Governor Pete Wilson at 916-445-4633 or call his
> >Riverside office at 909-680-6860.  Or write to me at
> >Liesl_Beneke@juno.com
> 
> Perhaps you can give us a little more information? I live in San
> Diego, and haven't heard of this situation. Where did the cats come
> from? Why are they going to be killed? When is this supposed to
> happen? What are we asking Wilson to do with them instead? Are groups
> like Shambala Preserve and Paws involved?
> 
> I think it will be easier to "do something" if we know what exactly we
> are doing something about.
> Cris Waller
> CrisW@ix.netcom.com
> 
> "I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person"

Cris,

I think you said it better than most of us could, and asked in a very
nice way.

I am in no way questioning the persons character or integrity.  They
should have used their name, and given the particulars.  They may have a
good reason for not doing so.  Even though we have other addresses,
including one at ciws@juno.com, we have a policy that we will always use
our names.

Ed Plummer
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Re: 80 Tigers are going to Die.
#6403
Author: Edmond Plummer
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 00:00
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Cris Waller wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 13 Mar 97 21:00:18 GMT, liesl_beneke@juno.com wrote:
> 
> >Please help us!  There are 80 tigers and leopards in Riverside County,
> >CA being held by animal control.  The plan, at this point, is to kill
> >the animals.  Please let your voice be heard and stop this terrible
> >action! The animals are healthy and have not harmed another animal or
> >a human being.  If you would like to lend your support, please either
> >fax California Governor Pete Wilson at 916-445-4633 or call his
> >Riverside office at 909-680-6860.  Or write to me at
> >Liesl_Beneke@juno.com
> 
> Perhaps you can give us a little more information? I live in San
> Diego, and haven't heard of this situation. Where did the cats come
> from? Why are they going to be killed? When is this supposed to
> happen? What are we asking Wilson to do with them instead? Are groups
> like Shambala Preserve and Paws involved?
> 
> I think it will be easier to "do something" if we know what exactly we
> are doing something about.
> Cris Waller
> CrisW@ix.netcom.com
> 
> "I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person"

Chis,

I think we have just been had.  I replied to you as the sender and the
newsgroup.  The header somehow came out to send to:

ca.news    and    ca.politics

I didn't notice it until I was reading what I had sent, as I try to keep
a copy of most things.

I apologize for again falling into someone's trap.

Ed Plummer
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Re: 80 Tigers are going to Die.
#6404
Author: Trelane
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 00:00
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On Thu, 13 Mar 97 21:00:18 GMT, liesl_beneke@juno.com wrote:

>Please help us!  There are 80 tigers and leopards in Riverside County,
>CA being held by animal control.  The plan, at this point, is to kill
>the animals.  

I don't believe you!

--
trelane@nbnet.nb.ca
http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/trelane/

'He will wipe away all tears from their eyes.'
			- Rev 21:4
Re: 80 Tigers are going to Die.
#6397
Author: Bryon
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:00
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In article <332CBEBE.5642@netheaven.com>, Edmond Plummer <ciws@netheaven.com> wrote:

>> On Thu, 13 Mar 97 21:00:18 GMT, liesl_beneke@juno.com wrote:


>I think you said it better than most of us could, and asked in a very
>nice way.
>
>I am in no way questioning the persons character or integrity.  They
>should have used their name, and given the particulars.  They may have a
>good reason for not doing so.  Even though we have other addresses,
>including one at ciws@juno.com, we have a policy that we will always use
>our names.

Are you insane?  She used her name.  If you'll look at the header I left above 
you'll see it.


**************************************************

          The Semi-Existence of Bryon

     http://www.geocities.com/~semi_bryon/

            It's a Brave New Web.
Re: 80 Tigers are going to Die.
#6398
Author: Cris Waller
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:00
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On Sun, 16 Mar 1997 23:04:35 -0500, Edmond Plummer
<ciws@netheaven.com> wrote:


>I think we have just been had. 

I have had it confirmed by the folks on Feline-L, the mailing list for
captive husbandry of big cats, that the story is indeed true. The man
who owns the animals is named John Weinhart, and he has gotten a
reputation for taking in unwanted big cats, especially leopards. Most
of the people on the list though, did not think the situation was as
dire as it seemed to be portrayed. They said Weinhart has enough
connections in the movie animal industry to find places for his cats.
Cris Waller
CrisW@ix.netcom.com

"I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person"
Re: 80 Tigers are going to Die.
#6399
Author: Todd C. Andrews
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:00
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On Thu, 13 Mar 97 21:00:18 GMT, liesl_beneke@juno.com wrote:

>Please help us!  There are 80 tigers and leopards in Riverside County,
>CA being held by animal control.  The plan, at this point, is to kill
>the animals.  Please let your voice be heard and stop this terrible
>action! The animals are healthy and have not harmed another animal or
>a human being.  If you would like to lend your support, please either
>fax California Governor Pete Wilson at 916-445-4633 or call his
>Riverside office at 909-680-6860.  Or write to me at
>Liesl_Beneke@juno.com

Nutcase!

Let them die in peace.
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