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Article #2522RAAARRGGHH!!!!! not again! (was:Re: Are you sure?)
From: Ralph 'Hairy' Moonen
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:52
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:52
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In article <1993Jan25.115908.41@janus.arc.ab.ca>, morgan@arc.ab.ca (Sean Morgan) writes: > > (Some of my mail says "not again", and some says "please post a solution". > Since you can't please all of the people all of the time...) > > Two child families are uniformly distributed between MM,MF,FF,FM, in birth > order. Again, all four possibilities are equally likely. Stop here. Make > sure you believe that. > > Now, since at least one is F, the MM drops out, leaving MF, FF, FM, so that > there is only a one third chance that the sibling is a girl. Birth order? No one mentioned age here. The question was, that given one girl, what are the chances of the other also being a girl. Given a uniform distribution, that means for 1-child families, P(girl) = P(boy) = 0.5 Therefore, given that one child is a girl, the chance that the other child is a boy, is 0.5, same as if it were a girl. Try this analogy, and you'll see what's wrong with your answer. You are throwing 2 consecutive dice. The first one turns up a six. What is the chance of the second also being a six. It's easy to see that because dice have no memory, the chance is also 1/6. Now, following your line of reasoning, there are 36 different ways to throw the dice. Because 1 six already has been thrown this leaves 11 combinations, one of which is a double six. So, according to you, you only have 1/11 chance of throwing a second six. Clearly this is dead wrong. --Ralph
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Newsgroups: rec.puzzles Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnewse!cbnewsd!att-out!cbfsb!cbnewsg.cb.att.com!cooper From: cooper@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (Ralph 'Hairy' Moonen) Subject: RAAARRGGHH!!!!! not again! (was:Re: Are you sure?) Message-ID: <1993Jan26.095218.17387@cbfsb.cb.att.com> Sender: news@cbfsb.cb.att.com Organization: AT&T References: <1993Jan22.131719.36@janus.arc.ab.ca> <1993Jan25.115908.41@janus.arc.ab.ca> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:52:18 GMT Lines: 28