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Article #2539Re: Are you sure? YES <SPOILER>
From: Carl J Lydick
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:42
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:42
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In article <1993Jan26.115545.11556@eng.cam.ac.uk>, cmh@eng.cam.ac.uk (C.M. Hicks) writes: =karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr) writes: = =>>You meet the daughter of a friend of yours on the street. You know =>>that your friend has two children. You think to yourself, "Ignoring =>>the occurrence of twins, and sex-linked differences in birth rates =>>and infant mortality, what are the odds of this girl's sibling also =>>being a girl?" = =One half - The probability of the other child being a girl is totally =independent of the sex of the first. The first child being =a girl does affect the 50-50 boy-girl distribution of the second (or any =other) child. = =Even if your friend had 10 children, and you met nine of them in the street, =all girls, then the probability of the tenth being female is still one half. = =Of course, the probability of having ten girls is 1/1024 (assuming no =genetic oddities), but the probability of any one child being a girl is =one half OK, maybe if we do this by enumeration, it'll convince people. Suppose there are four families. One has two boys, one two girls, one has an older boy and youger girl, and the fourth has an older girl and younger boy. Are you agreed that each of these four possibilities is equally likely? Now, suppose as you're walking around, you run into each of these children separately. Are you agreed that the odds of meeting them are identical? If so, then we have the following equiprobably possibilities: Description of child you meet Gender of sibling -------------------------------- ----------------- Oldest boy from first family Male Youngest boy from first family Male Oldest girl from second family Female Youngest girl from second family Female Boy from third family Female Girl from third family Male Boy from fourth family Female Girl from fourth family Male Each of these is equally likely. Now we note that the problem speficies that you met a girl. The possibilities here are: Description of child you meet Gender of sibling -------------------------------- ----------------- Oldest girl from second family Female Youngest girl from second family Female Girl from third family Male Girl from fourth family Male Thus there's a 50% chance that the sibling is female. This is *NOT* the same as the "I've got two children and at least one of them is a girl" question. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU!CARL From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Newsgroups: rec.puzzles Subject: Re: Are you sure? YES <SPOILER> Date: 26 Jan 1993 13:42:09 GMT Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera Lines: 60 Distribution: world Message-ID: <1k3f3hINN29k@gap.caltech.edu> References: <1993Jan22.131719.36@janus.arc.ab.ca> <1993Jan25.145759.2592@cs.cornell.edu>,<1993Jan26.115545.11556@eng.cam.ac.uk> Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu