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From: Chris Cole
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:16
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:16
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In article <1993Jan26.143630.1@skaro.demon.co.uk> richard@skaro.demon.co.uk (Richard Develyn) writes: >Probability puzzle >This puzzle sounds similar to the two children one discussed here >already but I've never heard a satisfactory explanation: > >You and two other people (call them B and C) are locked, in separate >cells, in a prison. You are told that two of you are to be executed. >So you calculate your chances of survival to be 1 in 3. > >The gaoler wanders round and you say to him that, since clearly at >least one of the two other chaps is going to die, he wouldn't be >giving anything away by telling you which one. He does - say B. Now, >amazingly, you calculate your chances of survival as 1 in 2 since it >is clear that either C or you will be the other victim. > >So, you think to yourself, you fooled the gaoler. His information was >(somehow) able to improve your chances of survival. Then you wake up >and realise that you never had that conversation at all. However, you >pretend that you do have this conversation. Whichever other prisoner >he tells you is for the chop your chances are still 1 in 2. So in fact >your chances of survival were 1 in 2 all along ... > >Errrmmmm. > This question is in the rec.puzzles Archive. To request a copy of the index to the Archive, send a letter to archive-request@questrel.com containing the line: send index The index will be mailed via return email to the address in your request's "From:" line. If you are unsure of this address, and cannot edit this line, then include in your message BEFORE the first "send" line the line: return_address <your_return_email_address> The Archive has been posted to news.answers. News.answers is archived in the periodic posting archive on pit-manager.mit.edu [18.172.1.27]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directory /pub/usenet/news.answers, and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in news.answers. Other news.answers archives are: ftp.cs.ruu.nl [131.211.80.17] in the anonymous ftp directory /pub/NEWS.ANSWERS (also accessible via mail server requests to mail-server@cs.ruu.nl) cnam.cnam.fr [192.33.159.6] in the anonymous ftp directory /pub/FAQ ftp.uu.net [137.39.1.9 or 192.48.96.9] in the anonymous ftp directory /usenet ftp.win.tue.nl [131.155.70.100] in the anonymous ftp directory /pub/usenet/news.answers grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr [134.214.100.25] in the anonymous ftp directory /pub/faq (also accessible via mail server requests to listserv@grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr), which is best used by EASInet sites and sites in France that do not have better connectivity to cnam.cnam.fr (e.g. Lyon, Grenoble) Note that the periodic posting archives on pit-manager.mit.edu are also accessible via Prospero and WAIS (the database name is "usenet" on port 210). From the Archive, the answer is: ******** decision/prisoners.p ******** Three prisoners on death row are told that one of them has been chosen at random for execution the next day, but the other two are to be freed. One privately begs the warden to at least tell him the name of one other prisoner who will be freed. The warden relents: 'Susie will go free.' Horrified, the first prisoner says that because he is now one of only two remaining prisoners at risk, his chances of execution have risen from one-third to one-half! Should the warden have kept his mouth shut? ******** decision/prisoners.s ******** Each prisoner had an equal chance of being the one chosen to be executed. So we have three cases: Prisoner executed: A B C Probability of this case: 1/3 1/3 1/3 Now, if A is to be executed, the warden will randomly choose either B or C, and tell A that name. When B or C is the one to be executed, there is only one prisoner other than A who will not be executed, and the warden will always give that name. So now we have: Prisoner executed: A A B C Name given to A: B C C B Probability: 1/6 1/6 1/3 1/3 We can calculate all this without knowing the warden's answer. When he tells us B will not be executed, we eliminate the middle two choices above. Now, among the two remaining cases, C is twice as likely as A to be the one executed. Thus, the probability that A will be executed is still 1/3, and C's chances are 2/3.
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!peregrine!questrel!chris From: chris@questrel.com (Chris Cole) Newsgroups: rec.puzzles Subject: Re: No subject Message-ID: <1993Jan27.181649.926@questrel.com> Date: 27 Jan 93 18:16:49 GMT References: <1993Jan26.143630.1@skaro.demon.co.uk> Organization: Questrel, Inc. Lines: 104