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dant@techbook.com (Dan Tilque) writes:

>So far, I've found about half a dozen in North America (some are fairly
>small though), but none on other continents.

If you watch "The Third Man", you will know that Vienna *used* to be
divided into five "quarters" (Russian, American, French, British and
International).  Of course, for years Berlin was divided.

Also, Jerusalem was politically divided between 1948 and 1967.

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In article <C1DzLH.8u7@techbook.com> dant@techbook.com (Dan Tilque) writes:
 > An example is Kansas City MO/KS.  The names must be identical so
 > Laredo/Neuvo Laredo does not count.
This is a bit of a set-back.  There are quite a few cities in Europe that
cross borders, but the name on both ends is different.
 > 
 > So far, I've found about half a dozen in North America (some are fairly
 > small though), but none on other continents.
True, except for Berlin upto a few years ago there are no single-named
examples.  But let's take the spirit rather thanm the letter of the question.
I.e. a single city that straddles borders (rather than two cities that
grow together).  I accept different names if they are only due to political
reasons.  In that case I know of two in Europe:
	Kerkrade(NL) - Herzogenrath(D)
here the border is right in the middle of a fairly important street.  It is
two way both at the German and at the Dutch side, with a one foot high
barrier in between (I presume that will change shortly, though I have no
idea what they will do with southbound traffic on the Dutch side and
northbound traffic on the German side, traffic signs depending on direction?).
	Baarle-Nassau(NL) - Baarle Hertog(B)
A village rather than a city, but one of the strangest cases I know off.
There are houses that straddle the border.  There are people with both
a Belgian and a Dutch mailbox.  Moreover, the Belgian parts are enclaves
within the Netherlands, but within the Belgian parts there are Dutch
enclaves again.  Smugglers paradise when the Dutch-Belgian border was
still important, but that is about 35 years ago.
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Possibly in Denmark/Sweden. A large built up area exists (I believe)
stretching from Copenhagen to Malm"o. And right by the water, one on
either side, is Helsingborg and Helsingor (same meaning, just different
spellings in different languages.

Ben.

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In article <8731@charon.cwi.nl>, dik@cwi.nl (Dik T. Winter) writes:
> 	Kerkrade(NL) - Herzogenrath(D)

There is also I belive a small village on St. Maarten which has the 
French/Dutch border running through it.

--Ralph

benha@castle.ed.ac.uk (Ben Hambidge) writes:
>Possibly in Denmark/Sweden. A large built up area exists (I believe)
>stretching from Copenhagen to Malm"o.

???. Have you looked at a map recently? There is more than 20 km's of
water between K/obenhavn and Malm"o. The bridge under construction
will not be finished before something like year 2000.

>                                      And right by the water, one on
>either side, is Helsingborg and Helsingor (same meaning, just different
>spellings in different languages.

No! borg == castle. /or == cape.

Jan

In article <matthew.727989239@base.cs.ucla.edu> matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher) writes:
>dant@techbook.com (Dan Tilque) writes:
>>So far, I've found about half a dozen in North America (some are fairly
>>small though), but none on other continents.
>If you watch "The Third Man", you will know that Vienna *used* to be
>divided into five "quarters" (Russian, American, French, British and
>International).  Of course, for years Berlin was divided.
>Also, Jerusalem was politically divided between 1948 and 1967.

I am not sure this counts but I'll try it anyway. There is a city in southern
Arizona named NOGALES. Across the international border in Mexico, there is a
city named NOGALES also. Now, I'm not sure if they were the same city before
and were divided up or if they started out separately.

Now, in Southern California there are two cities bordering each other that
have interchangeable syllables in their names. The places I'm thinking of are
CLAREMONT and MONTCLAIR. I know the spelling is different but I think you
understand my point. Are there other places in the country with this
distinction? What about the world?

Sidenote: Also in Southern California, there is CALEXICO and across the
          border in Mexico, there is MEXICALI.

Just my 8% of a quarter's worth--
Joe Hernandez the SCRINC (Southern California Resident In Northern California)
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Rome, Italy.

Nicosia, the capital of Cyprus is divided by the green line
between the Turkish and Greek parts of Cyprus. This is not
an international border per se, rather a cease fire line from
1974.

Serdar

PS: No flames about whether the border should be there or not,
I am just stating a fact, go to soc.culture.turkish/greek if
you want to argue.
 
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