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Started by Adrian Brandt
Mon, 20 Mar 1995 21:48
Spring switches
Author: Adrian Brandt
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 21:48
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 21:48
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I'd like to find out all about spring switches. Where are they typically in use today? What are the salient details of their deployment : reliability, longevity, safety, cost (initial and operating & maintenance), speed/weight limits, etc. I'm especially interested in where spring switches are in use to form double crossovers in double track areas (with facing points, so that reversing moves are never necessary in order to cross a train over to the other main track and back again). I understand that facing point switches are usually tied into the signaling system (even in automatic block signal territory) as a safety measure. I've heard that a European country (Switzerland, I think) has some kind of goal or requirement (I'm not sure which) that all mainline switches can be traversed safely (without damage to the switch or train derailment) in any direction, regarldess of switch setting. I'm not asking about moveable/spring frogs, although this is of some interest too. There is an article about how these are making a comeback in the current (March) issue of Railway Track & Structures (RT&S). -- Adrian Brandt (415) 940-2379 adrian@ntmtv.com
Re: Spring switches
Author: Evan Werkema
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 06:13
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 06:13
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In article <D5rDwp.410@ntmtv.com> adrian@ntmtv.com (Adrian Brandt) writes: >I'd like to find out all about spring switches. Where are they >typically in use today? What are the salient details of their >deployment : reliability, longevity, safety, cost (initial and >operating & maintenance), speed/weight limits, etc. I wish I had my system standards books here. I can tell you that most of the sidings on Santa Fe's original main line north of Albuquerque, NM have spring switches. This is single track territory. I had a chance to see a spring switch in action a few years ago, during a trip on Amtrak Train 4. Our train was put in the siding at Lamy for #3. The siding had to be manually lined coming in, but thanks to the spring switch, we were able to just roll out at the other end, without stopping, at about 20 mph. Watching from the rear vestibule, I was surprised at how long it took the switch to recover and return to the normal position...about 7 seconds in fits and starts. These switches look like normal high-star, double-headblock switchstands, but instead of having a rigid throw rod (I think that's what it's called), there is a big, enclosed spring joining the rod connected to the points with the rod from the throw lever. These switches can be locked and still function as spring switches because the spring is an integral part of the linkage. Santa Fe also uses Ramapo spring switches, which cannot be locked if they are to be run through the "wrong" way. Here, the springs are not an integal part of the linkage. I haven't seen one in action, but I believe that when one is run through the wrong way, everything, including the throw lever, swings over to the other position and stays there. The springs keep the switch from adopting a "half thrown" position, but do not move the points back to the original alignment after the train has passed. I've only seen these switches used in yard-type settings...they're a little impractical for siding switches where you want the switch to spring back to "normal." And too, you never know what the local kiddies might do when presented with an unlocked switch. -- ,_,,___......____...____..------ ______________ _--____________--_ _I ```` I[|]I I SANTA FE~~~~~~~~~, I @ I I I ~/---~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\~~~~~\---'_I 2903 I IATSF I\/I I /~o==o-( )-( )-( )-( )~~o==o~~~~~~o=o=o=o~~=====~~o=o=o=o~~~o==o~~~~~~~~o==o~ --Evan Werkema--elw4@po.cwru.edu--"Ship and Travel Santa Fe...All the Way!"--
Re: Spring switches
Author: sh
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 20:24
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 20:24
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Adrian Brandt (adrian@ntmtv.com) wrote:
: I'd like to find out all about spring switches. Where are they
: typically in use today? What are the salient details of their
There is a spring switch on the NWP, just north of Novato. It is at
the southern (well, western to SP) end of a scale track. All S/B trains
run through the scale, returning through the switch to the mainline.
There is a dwarf signal next to the switch, which is ALWAYS lit. This
signal is visable from hiway 101 (northbound). The only other signals I'm
aware of on the NWP are at the Petaluma river swing bridges, which are
normally dark. I don't know if there is a spring switch at the north end
of the siding, I haven't hiked out there yet.
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Re: Spring switches
Author: Steven F Kraus
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 02:26
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 02:26
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I didn't know that spring switches are such rarities, but EJ&E put one in in Matteson (IL) when they pulled up their second main west of there. The switch is lined for the south (eastbound) track. Eastbound trains are thus automatically routed on the correct track in double track territory while westbounds can proceed off their track into the single track main. No one needs to stop. I haven't gone out to see it in operation but the comment about the delay is interesting. I'm sure there must be some kind of dashpot mechanism. You wouldn't want the points to snap back after every axle like on an HO model switch.
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