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4 total messages Started by Adrian Brandt Mon, 20 Mar 1995 21:48
Spring switches
#4199
Author: Adrian Brandt
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 21:48
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I'd like to find out all about spring switches.  Where are they
typically in use today?  What are the salient details of their
deployment : reliability, longevity, safety, cost (initial and
operating & maintenance), speed/weight limits, etc.

I'm especially interested in where spring switches are in use
to form double crossovers in double track areas (with facing
points, so that reversing moves are never necessary in order
to cross a train over to the other main track and back again).

I understand that facing point switches are usually tied into
the signaling system (even in automatic block signal territory)
as a safety measure.

I've heard that a European country (Switzerland, I think) has
some kind of goal or requirement (I'm not sure which) that all
mainline switches can be traversed safely (without damage to
the switch or train derailment) in any direction, regarldess
of switch setting.

I'm not asking about moveable/spring frogs, although this is
of some interest too.  There is an article about how these are
making a comeback in the current (March) issue of Railway Track
& Structures (RT&S).

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Re: Spring switches
#4197
Author: Evan Werkema
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 06:13
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In article <D5rDwp.410@ntmtv.com> adrian@ntmtv.com (Adrian Brandt) writes:

>I'd like to find out all about spring switches.  Where are they
>typically in use today?  What are the salient details of their
>deployment : reliability, longevity, safety, cost (initial and
>operating & maintenance), speed/weight limits, etc.

  I wish I had my system standards books here.  I can tell you that most of
the sidings on Santa Fe's original main line north of Albuquerque, NM have
spring switches.  This is single track territory.  I had a chance to see
a spring switch in action a few years ago, during a trip on Amtrak Train 4.
Our train was put in the siding at Lamy for #3.  The siding had to be
manually lined coming in, but thanks to the spring switch, we were able to
just roll out at the other end, without stopping, at about 20 mph.  Watching
from the rear vestibule, I was surprised at how long it took the switch to
recover and return to the normal position...about 7 seconds in fits and
starts.
  These switches look like normal high-star, double-headblock switchstands,
but instead of having a rigid throw rod (I think that's what it's called),
there is a big, enclosed spring joining the rod connected to the points
with the rod from the throw lever.  These switches can be locked and still
function as spring switches because the spring is an integral part of the
linkage.
  Santa Fe also uses Ramapo spring switches, which cannot be locked if they
are to be run through the "wrong" way.  Here, the springs are not an integal
part of the linkage.  I haven't seen one in action, but I believe that
when one is run through the wrong way, everything, including the throw
lever, swings over to the other position and stays there.  The springs
keep the switch from adopting a "half thrown" position, but do not move the
points back to the original alignment after the train has passed.  I've only
seen these switches used in yard-type settings...they're a little
impractical for siding switches where you want the switch to spring back to
"normal."  And too, you never know what the local kiddies might do when
presented with an unlocked switch.

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Re: Spring switches
#4195
Author: sh
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 20:24
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Adrian Brandt (adrian@ntmtv.com) wrote:
: I'd like to find out all about spring switches.  Where are they
: typically in use today?  What are the salient details of their

There is a spring switch on the NWP, just north of Novato. It is at
the southern (well, western to SP) end of a scale track. All S/B trains
run through the scale, returning through the switch to the mainline.
There is a dwarf signal next to the switch, which is ALWAYS lit. This
signal is visable from hiway 101 (northbound). The only other signals I'm
aware of on the NWP are at the Petaluma river swing bridges, which are
normally dark. I don't know if there is a spring switch at the north end
of the siding, I haven't hiked out there yet.

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Re: Spring switches
#4196
Author: Steven F Kraus
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 02:26
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I didn't know that spring switches are such rarities, but EJ&E put one in
in Matteson (IL) when they pulled up their second main west of there.
The switch is lined for the south (eastbound) track.  Eastbound trains
are thus automatically routed on the correct track in double track
territory while westbounds can proceed off their track into the single
track main.  No one needs to stop.

I haven't gone out to see it in operation but the comment about the delay
is interesting.  I'm sure there must be some kind of dashpot mechanism.
You wouldn't want the points to snap back after every axle like on an HO
model switch.
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