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Article #1480Re: Hangmans Noose
From: William J Turner
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:18
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:18
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I agree that there are possible uses for *ANY* knot other than what is normally taught. However, you need to be careful to make sure a knot is strong enough to do the job, especially if it involves a risk to life or limb. In particular, I agree whole-heartedly with the following statement: In article <KIRAVUO.92Dec21181237@lesti.hut.fi> kiravuo@hila.hut.fi writes: > >There is only one thing I am really worried about when teaching >knots. The improper use of square knot. Every scout book I have >seen says that the square knot is used for "joining two ropes of >equal thickness". And this is bunk. The square knot has a >tendency to unravel, if the knot is disturbed in some way. In >practice this means that if you join two lines with a square knot >and use that as a fastening line for your boat, you may >experience difficulties in finding your boat the next morning. Not only that, but it can be very dangerous! If the two ropes are not *EXACTLY* the same (in other words, the two ends of the same rope) the square knot *WILL* slip. Therefore, about the only purpose it is specifically suited for is first-aid, where you may tie a bandage on a victim. Unfortunately, this not that well known, and because it is so easy to remember, the square knot has become *THE MOST DANGEROUS KNOT*. This information is all from a wonderful book I bought a year and a half ago and used to teach knots to scouts at summer camp. If any one is interested, the book is called THE ASHLEY BOOK OF KNOTS (or something like that) and has something like 4000 knots. I got it for about $45 (US) at Waldon Books. I love this book!!! Weuchsowagan -- Will Will Turner ASM Troop 182, Ankeny, Iowa, Mid-Iowa Council Eagle Scout class of 1987 Vigil Honor member of the Mitigwa Lodge #450, Order of the Arrow Scoutcraft Director, Camps Mitigwa and Wapello, 1991 -- Will Turner, N0RDV -------------------------------- wjturner@iastate.edu | Whatever the mind can conceive | twp77@isuvax.iastate.edu | and believe, it can achieve. | TURNERW@vaxld.ameslab.gov --------------------------------
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Newsgroups: rec.scouting Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!spool.mu.edu!yale.edu!yale!gumby!destroyer!news.iastate.edu!wjturner From: wjturner@iastate.edu (William J Turner) Subject: Re: Hangmans Noose Message-ID: <BzMIyF.HxH@news.iastate.edu> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA References: <1h0vrmINNon0@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> <KIRAVUO.92Dec21181237@lesti.hut.fi> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:18:14 GMT Lines: 48