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Article #1538Re: Violation of Netiqutte (was: Stan - Hatred is unbecoming)
From: Rob Strom
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:16
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:16
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In article <1992Nov16.182846.6058@tamsun.tamu.edu>, wjh0265@tamsun.tamu.edu (William Hobson) writes:
|> I echo Stan's words - just because I disagree with the Gay Rights Movements
|> agenda, it does not mean I have "hatred" in my heart. I am a Bible believing
|> Christian and I learn from there (the Bible) that homosexuality is wrong.
|> This does not mean that I hate homosexuals - quite the contrary, it is an
|> essential teaching that I am to love all men, not just those who agree with me.
|> I therefore resent the implication that if you disagree, you hate. It just
|> doesn't follow!
|>
But if you defend Stan's position, you are doing more than disagreeing.
You are saying that that you don't want gay scouts and scoutleaders
participating with your children. That's more than disagreeing.
I disagree with Christians but I don't believe that they should
be thrown out of scouting.
I don't buy the arguments that the exclusion of gays or atheists
from scouting is based on Biblical values.
1. There are other Biblical values which you are not so vehement
about making the basis for exclusion. As you know, the Bible
teaches that it is wrong to eat shrimp, and yet I see no campaign
to kick shrimp-eaters out of scouts.
2. Your Christian Bible teaches that everyone is a sinner and
you should take the plank out of your eye before taking
the speck out of your neighbor's. Even if you think
gays are "sinners" you should recall that Jesus defended his
socializing and breaking bread with sinners. Why
are you making an exception for gays?
My opinion is that gays are being excluded because there is
a popular prejudice, rooted in fear, against gays. The
Biblical and other "moralistic" arguments are rationalizations
for the prejudice.
--
Rob Strom, strom@watson.ibm.com, (914) 784-7641
IBM Research, 30 Saw Mill River Road, P.O. Box 704, Yorktown Heights, NY 10598
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Newsgroups: rec.scouting Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!charon.amdahl.com!pacbell.com!ames!saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!gatech!news.ans.net!newsgate.watson.ibm.com!yktnews!admin!watson!Watson.Ibm.Com!strom From: strom@Watson.Ibm.Com (Rob Strom) Subject: Re: Violation of Netiqutte (was: Stan - Hatred is unbecoming) Sender: @watson.ibm.com Message-ID: <1992Nov17.211650.30817@watson.ibm.com> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 21:16:50 GMT References: <ardq09m@lynx.unm.edu> <1992Nov12.210927.20324@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> <1992Nov16.182846.6058@tamsun.tamu.edu> Organization: IBM Research Lines: 39