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boys coming to grips with their sexuality

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From: Tim Fogarty
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 02:10
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In article <2648@cronos.metaphor.com>, emg@Metaphor.COM (Mike Greenawalt) writes:
|>|> In article <1992Nov3.170807.3262@usl.edu>, mxc1059@usl.edu (Carroll Matthew) writes:
|>|> >What about starting a gay boyscout troop?  Would that work?
|>|> >:

I thought "separate but equal" was thrown out in the 50s.

|>
|>At what age does the typical gay male know that he is gay?  I would think that
|>at ages 11-12-13 or so, boys are just beginning to find out who/what they are.

For most gays and lesbians, its when you become sexually active.  This may be
in early adolecence.  It may be much latter.  What age do straights become
sexual active ?  Some very early, most in their late teens and early 20s,
some much later.

Some boys may know that they are gay while still being a virgin.  
However, they would have to be very introspective.  I would guess that
most boys (gay and straight) discover that they have a "sexuality" at age 13-15.
Times may be different from when I was 15 (17 years ago), but while most gay
adolecents may realize that they are "different" and don't quite fit in, I 
would not expect them realize that what they are feeling to be expressions
of their homosexuality.  However, with homosexuality being so much more 
visible, (from the evening news to Rosanne) perhaps kids are becoming aware
at an earlier age.

|>I doubt they can make a lifetime decision at that age.

What lifetime decision ?  Of course my arguements are based on the believe that
one is born with a sexual orientation.  This orientation is not a true/false
situation, but a range (say Kinsey 0-6), where some people are born 0s: 
completely heterosexual; some people are born 6s: completely homosexual; and
everyone else in between.  Those in between may choose to be heterosexual,
homosexual, or bisexual.



How does sexuality in general affect scouting ?  When boys start dating 
are they more likely to drop out of scouting ?  What type of boys are 
more likely to stay in scouting until the age of 18 ?  

What this is leading up to is: 

Lets assume that 10% of the boys that join scouting at the age
of 11 are biologically homosexual. Is it likely that 10% of the 15-18
year olds are biologically homosexual ?  Or will it be more or less than 10% ?
Most boys drop out of scouting long before they are 18.  In today's society, 
with pressures of dating and pressures of not fitting in, are biologically 
homosexual boys more likely to stay in scouting?  Are they more likely to 
make Eagle ?  


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Tim Fogarty
Sys Man and Sys Admin for the EGSE in the POCC at JSC for SRL-1, STS-59
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