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The issue of Cub Scout (BSA version) camping is not just a matter of 
liability. Previous posters are correct that BSA Cub Leaders are not trained
to conduct campouts. Webelos Leaders Do receive training for camping within the
program limits for Webelos camping. 

The BSA program is based on a progression of experiences. The contention is 
that to introduce elements of later programs too soon (or too much) will make
the later part seem 'old hat' by the time the boy gets there. If there is nothing
new to experience ('we did all that in Cub Scouts') there is nothing to keep
the boy interested and keep him in the program.As a BSA leader, I am required to 
present the program as it is established by the National Council.

As to camping, our council allows Packs to have what amounts to a mass family
campout at the Council camp. Webelos dens may go on overnight campouts as a den
with a ratio of one adult to one or two boys. They are also encouraged to attend
a few Boy Scout troop campouts. Boy Scout troops may go camping when and where 
they choose. I agree with most of the policy (they only allow 5th grade Webelos
to attend District Camporees, I disagree with that) since it is in keeping with 
the nature and emphasis of each part of the program and the established progression
from family to independent young man.

BTW, we try to have one Troop/Pack Family campout each year where we conduct a
crossover. After the crossover the new Boy Scouts participate in their first 
activity as a Scout (a night wide game) without parental supervision (parents
are stuck in a meeting with the Troop committee).
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Mark Wilson                              Martin Marietta E,I & M Group
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