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Started by Janet M. Swisher
Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:32
Arch pain while skating(& skiing)
Author: Janet M. Swisher
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:32
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:32
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Sorry for the diverse cross-post. I am trying to cast a wide net for possible expertise. Please reply by email, or edit Newsgroups: appropriately. I am looking for advice, information, resources, books, etc. on biomechanics, especially on correcting abnormalities as they relate to skating- and skiing-type activities. The details: My husband Paul would like to get in shape, but knows from experience that he will not stick with an activity that is not both convenient and enjoyable in itself, which cuts out swimming, cycling and running (no flames, that's his preference). He is interested in rollerblading, but the few times he has rented skates, he has developed pain across his arches within just a few minutes, severe enough to make him want to stop (he has high arches). Adjusting the laces/straps or switching to a different size does not seem to have much effect. The pain takes a couple of hours to subside. At the suggestion of one of the skate shop guys, Paul went to see a podiatrist to be fitted for orthotics (expensive, yes, but worth it if it works and we can get him to start exercising). Even with the orthotics, the pain recurred. The podiatrist made some adjustments, but they seemed to help only marginally, if at all. The podiatrist does not seem to know much about rollerblading. He told Paul several things which may not all be consistent or true. One is that the bones in Paul's feet lock together a little later in his stride than normal. Therefore, when he tries to push out with them, they are not rigid, and his muscles have to try to make up the difference, which puts extra strain on them. This seems to explain Paul's experience the one time he tried going skiing. He literally could not do what the instructor said; if he tried to put his weight on his toes, he could not push his skis to the side. He had to put his weight on his heels instead. He also had foot pain while skiing, but just put up with it so as not to blow his one available day on the slopes. Another thing the podiatrist said is that orthotics are "better" than regular arch supports because an arch support is analogous to sticking a column in the middle of an arch to keep it from falling down, whereas an orthotic is analogous to a flying buttress in that it helps the arch act as an arch (I don't think he meant that an orthotic is *really* a flying buttress, but that it works in a similar way). He also said that the way to correct the position at which Paul's foot locks is to correct the verticle angle of the foot. The orthotics certainly *seem* a lot like regular arch supports. They are molded to his foot shape, and stop just short of the ball of the foot. Wouldn't a "buttress" need something on the toe side of the arch? And if they're supposed to correct the verticle angle of the foot, couldn't they just be a foot-shaped wedge of a few degrees? Finally, Paul has in the distant past gone ice skating, and does not recall that the leather boots of the ice skates caused him any pain. Are there brands of inline rollerskates that have ice-skate-style leather boots? I'd appreciate any suggestions that will increase my understanding of the biomechanics of skating, and of orthotics and how they work. Thanks, Janet -- Don't take life so serious ... it ain't *no how* permanent. -- Porkypine.
Re: Arch pain while skating(& skiing)
Author: Donald Mackie
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 05:39
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 05:39
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Subject: Arch pain while skating(& skiing) From: Janet M. Swisher, swisher@cs.utexas.edu Date: 25 Jan 1993 12:32:08 -0600 In article <lm8ch8INNku3@boogie.cs.utexas.edu> Janet M. Swisher, swisher@cs.utexas.edu writes: >My husband Paul would like to get in shape <deleted stuff with which I sympathize> >He is interested in >rollerblading, but the few times he has rented skates, he has >developed pain across his arches within just a few minutes, severe >enough to make him want to stop (he has high arches). Adjusting the >laces/straps or switching to a different size does not seem to have >much effect. The pain takes a couple of hours to subside. <deleted experience with podiatrist> I have exactly the same problem when cross-country skiing, both diagonal and skating style. A real problem since this is the only winter activity I will participate in. The pain is excruciating and has nearly brought me to tears. Bad news when I'm on the trail and miles from anywhere. I tried assorted boots, usually by renting them, and also messed around with how I laced my own boots. No help there. I had some orthotics made - no real help so I took them back and in the long run have had three sets made. The third set make a slight difference so I use them sometimes. I have rationalized what is going on in the same way as you have. I believe I am working the small muscles of my forefoot hard in order to control my skis. They cannot deal with the sort of work I am asking of them. I have found that by consciously putting more weight on my heel I can avoid most of the pain. It took a while and I have a rather unconventional style but it has worked well for me. Every now and then, particularly when moving fast, I move my weight forward and the problem recurs. One other thing I've noticed. The heavier I am, and I've been up around 260 pounds, the worse the problem is. Of course, weight control is one of the goals of my exercise but it seems to be a factor, for me anyway.
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