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Article #108Re: Vote NO on Prop Eight
From: Bill Z.
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 04:45
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 04:45
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LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes: > On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:54:51 -0800, nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill > Z.) wrote: > >>LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes: >> >>Look moron, it is not a "fallacy" to point out that you were misusing >>statistics. All you had to do to avoid criticism is to provide >>accurate and appropriate numbers. For some reason, you can't do that >>and instead continually exaggerate, which is not necessary. If you >>had been honest, you'd have said that 48% of the cummulative AIDS >>cases since the start of the epidemic are known to have resulted from >>male-to-male sexual contact. It's 48% instead of 70% due to the 48% >>number including women, and more straight women than straight men are >>infected. You can also admit that male-to-male sexual contact includes >>not only homosexuals - bisexuals, straight guys who "experiment", and >>rape victims (e.g., in prison) are all in that category. >> >>Why do you have to lie so much? If you simply told the truth, you'd >>still have rates that would make most readers nervous. All your >>exagerations do is to reduce your credibility to zero, as do your >>paranoid delusions about "Dogma". > > > As usual you refuse to acknowledge the truth about male homosexuals > and their knowing and willful spread of HIV/AIDS in the us. Homosexual > males account for 70% of all AIDS case among males in the US and 50% > of all cases male and female. Well, you are still being dishonest because (a) the "male-to-male sexual contact" catagory includes more than just homosexuals and (b) nobody knows if people in "male-to-male sexual contact AND IV drug use catagory" got it from sex or from drug use (specifically, what the percentages are). As I said, there is really no reason for you to lie about it (your 70% BTW, required some round-up with worst-case assumptions). Why not just admit what the actual numbers are? That isn't asking a lot from you. <rest ignored>.
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