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Re: Vote NO on Prop Eight

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From: John Donovan
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 06:33
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"LeRoy Blue" <leroyblue@billon.net> wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:54:51 -0800, nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill
> Z.) wrote:
>
>>LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes:
>>
>>> On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:51:11 -0800, nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill
>>> Z.) wrote:
>>>
>>>>LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:41:52 -0800, nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill
>>>>> Z.) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ah! But a majority (70%) of the men who have AIDS ARE homosexuals
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>100% of humans who have prostate cancer are men.  Your point is
>>>>>>meaningless (and a tad disinjenious as you are apparently ignoring
>>>>>>women who have it).
>>>>>
>>>>> It's amazing how you  fling the fallacies. You are an expert in the
>>>>> application of the Homosexual Dogma.
>>>>
>>>>What the hell are you babbling about now and what "fallacies" are
>>>>lying about?  Maybe you don't like people pointing out the sort
>>>>of tricks outlines in books such as "How to lie with statistics."
>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Lie_with_Statistics jas a
>>>>short description for you.
>>>
>>> Another fallacy flung to avoid recognizing the facts about homosexual
>>> makes and HIV/AIDS/
>>
>>Look moron, it is not a "fallacy" to point out that you were misusing
>>statistics. All you had to do to avoid criticism is to provide
>>accurate and appropriate numbers.  For some reason, you can't do that
>>and instead continually exaggerate, which is not necessary.  If you
>>had been honest, you'd have said that 48% of the cummulative AIDS
>>cases since the start of the epidemic are known to have resulted from
>>male-to-male sexual contact.  It's 48% instead of 70% due to the 48%
>>number including women, and more straight women than straight men are
>>infected.  You can also admit that male-to-male sexual contact includes
>>not only homosexuals - bisexuals, straight guys who "experiment", and
>>rape victims (e.g., in prison) are all in that category.
>>
>>Why do you have to lie so much?  If you simply told the truth, you'd
>>still have rates that would make most readers nervous.  All your
>>exagerations do is to reduce your credibility to zero, as do your
>>paranoid delusions about "Dogma".
>
>
> As usual you refuse to acknowledge the truth

No, we picked apart your argumnent peice by peice.

> about male homosexuals
> and their knowing and willful

Knowing and willful?  More fairy tales?  Or do you have some statistic from 
Rev. Phelps to back up your point?

> spread of HIV/AIDS in the us.

And, even if this was tru (it's not), why would you care?

If it's only gays who are spreading it (it's not) why should you worry?

> Homosexual
> males account for 70% of all AIDS case among males in the US and 50%
> of all cases male and female.

And black men account for most of the cases of diabetes....so it must be a 
"black man" disease.

The majority of gay men never contract aids.  (A statistic you can't seem to 
grasp.)
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From: "John Donovan" <5l40sdm02@sneakemail.com>
Newsgroups: sac.general,ba.general,ba.politics,la.general,scruz.general
Subject: Re: Vote NO on Prop Eight
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 01:33:42 -0500
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