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Re: Vote NO on Prop Eight

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From: Bill Z.
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:04
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LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes:

> On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:17:32 -0800, nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill
> Z.) wrote:
>
>>LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes:
>>
>>No, I think you lie - you made up that 70 percent thing and the
>>CDC data simply is not consistent with it - the actual numbers
>>are lower.
>
>    2005 Data directly from a CDC study read it and weep::

Why should I "weep" when the CDC data backs up what I said?

>     * Since the beginning of the epidemic, an estimated 517,992 MSM
> (452,111 MSM and 65,881 MSM who inject drugs) had received a diagnosis
> of AIDS, accounting for 68% of male adults and adolescents who
> received a diagnosis of AIDS and 54% of all people who received a
> diagnosis of AIDS [1].

Yep, just what I pointed out - you gave a number that was too high.

> So, I was off by three percentage points that well with in the margin
> for error. 

No it isn't - you get that sort of error when you have around 1000
cases as it follows a Poisson distribution, and the standard deviation
(the statistical error) is the square root of that number. For a mean
of 500,000 cases, the statistical error (which measures the random
change from year to year) is 0.14 percent.

> While I can't find the cite yet I know that CDC has upped
> that figure to 70% since 2005

You can't find a citation but "know" anyway?  And you expect us to
believe you?

>>>>Why not just admit what the actual numbers are?  That isn't asking
>>>>a lot from you.
>>>
>>>  Why not accept the data from the CDC rather than continue to blow
>>> smoke up your own ass.
>>
>>Why do you lie so much?
>
> It very clear who is lying  and it's not me. I back up what I say,
> you, on the other hand, whine a lot.

It is very clear you are lying.  One lie you tell repeatedly is to
attribute all male-to-male sexual contact cases to homosexuals while
ignoring bisexuals.
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