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"LeRoy Blue" <leroyblue@billon.net> wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:50:18 -0500, "John Donovan"
> <5l40sdm02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"LeRoy Blue" <leroyblue@billon.net> wrote in message
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>>> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:09:54 -0500, "John Donovan"
>>> <5l40sdm02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"LeRoy Blue" <leroyblue@billon.net> wrote in message
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>>>>> On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:52:47 -0500, "John Donovan"
>>>>> <5l40sdm02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"kujebak" <kujebak@eudoramail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:03babf30-8e41-451b-86c0-7a684111527b@g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill Z. wrote:
>>>>>>>> kujebak <kujebak@eudoramail.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > Bill Z. wrote:
>>>>>>>> >> kujebak <kujebak@eudoramail.com> writes:
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >  Normal transmission of the HIV virus between individuals is
>>>>>>>> >> > entirely dependent on a specific type of sexual contact which 
>>>>>>>> >> > is
>>>>>>>> >> > predominant among homosexual men.
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Would you care to revise that statement?  It is the "entirely"
>>>>>>>> >> part
>>>>>>>> >> that is wrong.  The probability of infection per sex act is
>>>>>>>> >> highest
>>>>>>>> >> for one particular sexual practice, but it is not zero for other
>>>>>>>> >> ones, including ones common among heterosexuals.
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> It's bad form to send out messages that suggest something is
>>>>>>>> >> completely safe when it isn't.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > That was not my point. My point was that normal sex
>>>>>>>> > among homosexual men is far more risky, with respect
>>>>>>>> > to HIV transmission, than normal sex (including oral sex)
>>>>>>>> > among heterosexuals, to the tune of something like 20%
>>>>>>>> > for the former compared to one tenth of one percent for
>>>>>>>> > the latter. What is *your* point? That HIV is not just a pro-
>>>>>>>> > blem of homosexual lifestyle? A disease that spreads
>>>>>>>> > in the human population predominantly by anal intercourse?
>>>>>>>> > How could it not be?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My point was that what you wrote, regardless of what you probably
>>>>>>>> meant, was wrong.  If you weren't a jerk (as you turned out to be)
>>>>>>>> you would have merely posted a correction: your use of the word
>>>>>>>> "entirely" meant that the risk for any other type of sexual 
>>>>>>>> activity
>>>>>>>> was zero and that simply isn't the case.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You claimed to have some health care experience. If so, you should
>>>>>>>> have realized that posting misleading information that 
>>>>>>>> unknowledgable
>>>>>>>> members of the public might see is not a good idea, particularly
>>>>>>>> when you state such experience up front.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you weren't so bigoted (you obviously are) you would have 
>>>>>>>> realized
>>>>>>>> what I was saying - it had nothing to do with "lifestyles" real or
>>>>>>>> imagined.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is nothing "misleading" in what I said. I merely cut
>>>>>>> through decades of willful misinformation piled upon this
>>>>>>> subject. Your refusal to deal with facts underlying this...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The Gay Community is the ONLY people who dealt with the *facts* about
>>>>>>HIV/AIDS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The Gay Community (with little if any help from anyone else) helped 
>>>>>>stem
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>tide of Aids.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So, don't lecture anyone on the denial.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Local, State and the Federal government have been in a state of denial
>>>>>>since
>>>>>>1985.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Few people will share your view because the average American can't
>>>>> get their head that far up their ass.
>>>>
>>>>Can't discuss facts .....it appears to be an emotional thing for you.
>>>>
>>>>> Homosexual males were, have been
>>>>> and are the No.1 vector of HIV/AIDS in the US. Homosexual males..
>>>>
>>>>And the reduction in infections for 20 years was due to the gay
>>>>community...with little help from anyone else.
>>>
>>> There has been NO REDUCTION in the rate of HIV/AIDS case reported each
>>> year among homosexual males. The only reduction has been among hets in
>>> general and het IV drug users.
>>
>>This is False.
>
> Your lies kill people
>
>>
>>> There has been no reduction in the rate of new cases reported
>>
>>This is false.
>
> Your lies kill people
>
>>
>>> Get you head out of your ass and stop aiding and abetting the spread
>>> of HIV/AIDS by homosexuals
>>
>>More emotional crap.
>>
>>No one is abetting the spread of HIV/AIDS.
>
> The US Center for Disease Control (CDC) www.cdc.gov differs with you.
> They regularly post data that clearly shows that homosexual males are
> the No.1 vector of HIV/AIDS in the US.
>
>>Everyone is advocating safe sex and testing.
>
> But few are doing it.

I guess you are peering into the windows of gay people?

You seem to have some kind of obsession with gays and anal sex.

>>The increase in the number of AIDS case in the
> last two years proves that.

Wrong.  Next!

> Homosexual males will not abate their
> promiscuity until they die.

Well you heteros are not doing so great with your promiscuity.

How many bastard children are brought into the world because of hetero 
promiscuity?

And to what do we attribute the increase inabortions and bastard children?

You heteros are ruinging childrens lives.....and costing us a fortune in 
welfare payments!

Will you ever control your zippers?


> Your lies kill people

Your lies about gay people have killed people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Shepard


>>Please check your hate at the door and deal with facts.
>
>
> Please stop lying about AIDS - you're killing people.

Please stop lying about gays...you're killing people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Shepard