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"LeRoy Blue" <leroyblue@billon.net> wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:59:33 -0500, "John Donovan"
> <5l40sdm02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Amos Nandy" <amos_nandy@cebu.net> wrote in message
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>>> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:19:05 -0500, "John Donovan"
>>> <5l40sdm02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Amos Nandy" <amos_nandy@cebu.net> wrote in message
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>>>>> On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:52:47 -0500, "John Donovan"
>>>>> <5l40sdm02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"kujebak" <kujebak@eudoramail.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill Z. wrote:
>>>>>>>> kujebak <kujebak@eudoramail.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > Bill Z. wrote:
>>>>>>>> >> kujebak <kujebak@eudoramail.com> writes:
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >  Normal transmission of the HIV virus between individuals is
>>>>>>>> >> > entirely dependent on a specific type of sexual contact which 
>>>>>>>> >> > is
>>>>>>>> >> > predominant among homosexual men.
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Would you care to revise that statement?  It is the "entirely"
>>>>>>>> >> part
>>>>>>>> >> that is wrong.  The probability of infection per sex act is
>>>>>>>> >> highest
>>>>>>>> >> for one particular sexual practice, but it is not zero for other
>>>>>>>> >> ones, including ones common among heterosexuals.
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> It's bad form to send out messages that suggest something is
>>>>>>>> >> completely safe when it isn't.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > That was not my point. My point was that normal sex
>>>>>>>> > among homosexual men is far more risky, with respect
>>>>>>>> > to HIV transmission, than normal sex (including oral sex)
>>>>>>>> > among heterosexuals, to the tune of something like 20%
>>>>>>>> > for the former compared to one tenth of one percent for
>>>>>>>> > the latter. What is *your* point? That HIV is not just a pro-
>>>>>>>> > blem of homosexual lifestyle? A disease that spreads
>>>>>>>> > in the human population predominantly by anal intercourse?
>>>>>>>> > How could it not be?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My point was that what you wrote, regardless of what you probably
>>>>>>>> meant, was wrong.  If you weren't a jerk (as you turned out to be)
>>>>>>>> you would have merely posted a correction: your use of the word
>>>>>>>> "entirely" meant that the risk for any other type of sexual 
>>>>>>>> activity
>>>>>>>> was zero and that simply isn't the case.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You claimed to have some health care experience. If so, you should
>>>>>>>> have realized that posting misleading information that 
>>>>>>>> unknowledgable
>>>>>>>> members of the public might see is not a good idea, particularly
>>>>>>>> when you state such experience up front.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you weren't so bigoted (you obviously are) you would have 
>>>>>>>> realized
>>>>>>>> what I was saying - it had nothing to do with "lifestyles" real or
>>>>>>>> imagined.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is nothing "misleading" in what I said. I merely cut
>>>>>>> through decades of willful misinformation piled upon this
>>>>>>> subject. Your refusal to deal with facts underlying this...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The Gay Community is the ONLY people who dealt with the *facts* about
>>>>>>HIV/AIDS.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bull Shit!
>>>>
>>>>You're refuting me without any facts.  The gay community themselves were
>>>>responsible for education, testing and incredibly reducing the infection
>>>>rate.
>>>>
>>>>>>The Gay Community (with little if any help from anyone else) helped 
>>>>>>stem
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>tide of Aids.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bull Shit! The promiscuous behavior of homosexual males...
>>>>
>>>>Again, do you have any fats to really refute the statement...or more
>>>>cut/paste crap?
>>>>
>>>>The rate of infection declined dramatically.  Who was responsible for
>>>>education, testing and reducing this rate?
>>>
>>> There has been NO DECLINE in the rate of HIV/AIDS cases among male
>>> homosexuals in the US.
>>
>>THis is false, however, you can live in stupidity if you like.  It's a 
>>free
>>country.
>>>>Facts is facts.
>>>>
>>>>Although you promiscuous heteros have been responsible for spreading
>>>>Ghonnorhea,  Chlamydia and the calp since the days of columbus.
>>>
>>> Another of your head up your ass facts.
>>
>>Nope, you promiscuous. heteros spread chlamydia and ghonnorhea everywhere.
>>
>>Look at the rate of STDs during WW1 & WW2.
>>
>>Was that m2m sex in the baracks that we diudn't know was going on?
>>
>>>>> Bull Shit. The states and the Federal government have spent BILLIONS
>>>>> on AIDS education
>>>>
>>>>Again, back to facts.  Under Ronadl Reagan when this all began, the fed
>>>>government did nothing.
>>>>
>>>>Most of the research that has helped with the 'cocktail' medication came
>>>>from European countries.
>>>
>>> Funded by the US tax dollars
>>
>>We are funding drug trials in France?
>>
>>Another falsehood.
>>
>>Wow...  Stop the presses!
>>
>>>
>>>>> (to no avail among homosexual males who, for the
>>>>> most part are governed by sexual promiscuity)...
>>>
>>>>Emotions.  No facts.
>>>
>>> Try "Homosexuals know how AIDS is transmitted yet they make little
>>> effort to abate it.
>>
>>Wrong....most of the efforts to encourage testing and safe-sex were
>>instituted by the gay community.
>>
>>>>> and free treatment
>>>>> (with very expensive drugs)  for the AIDS infected homosexual males
>>>>
>>>>There is free treatment available?!?!?!?    You can get the drugs for
>>>>free?
>>>>
>>>>Wow!  Why aren't we telling people about that?
>>>
>>> Some of you are always a day late and a dollar short -
>>
>>Please tell me where we are giving out the drugs for free so we can
>>publicisze it!
>>
>>
>>>>> who can't keep their dick out of their BUTT BUDDY'S ass..
>>>>
>>>>Pardon me, but I think the heteros have who zoned districts in each town
>>>>dedicated to the fact that they can't control themselve.
>>>
>>>>These districts are filled with hetero married men, who can't seem to be
>>>>satisfied with the woman they asre married to.
>>>
>>> Fallacy - the last resort of a whipped homosexual.
>>
>>Denial...the last resort of a loser in a debate.
>>
>>Denial....not just a river in Egypt.
>>
>>Next!
>>
>>
>>BTW.....How many out of wedlock births are you promiscuous heteros taking
>>responsibility for?
>>
>>Out of wedlock birhts are at an all time hight because of you dirty 
>>heteros
>>having sex with strangers you have no intention on stating with.
>>
>>How mucvh puiblic money do we spend on welfare for your BASTARD CHILDREN/
>>
>>(I got the idea of using caps for emphasis from you.  ;-)
>>
>>
>
> Your lies are killing people.

Your hatred and bigotry is killing people.

http://www.sovo.com/2008/10-17/news/national/9313.cfm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Shepard
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