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Article #180Re: Vote NO on Prop Eight
From: John Donovan
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:52
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:52
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"kujebak" <kujebak@eudoramail.com> wrote in message news:03babf30-8e41-451b-86c0-7a684111527b@g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > > > Bill Z. wrote: >> kujebak <kujebak@eudoramail.com> writes: >> >> > Bill Z. wrote: >> >> kujebak <kujebak@eudoramail.com> writes: >> >> >> >> > Normal transmission of the HIV virus between individuals is >> >> > entirely dependent on a specific type of sexual contact which is >> >> > predominant among homosexual men. >> >> >> >> Would you care to revise that statement? It is the "entirely" part >> >> that is wrong. The probability of infection per sex act is highest >> >> for one particular sexual practice, but it is not zero for other >> >> ones, including ones common among heterosexuals. >> >> >> >> It's bad form to send out messages that suggest something is >> >> completely safe when it isn't. >> > >> > That was not my point. My point was that normal sex >> > among homosexual men is far more risky, with respect >> > to HIV transmission, than normal sex (including oral sex) >> > among heterosexuals, to the tune of something like 20% >> > for the former compared to one tenth of one percent for >> > the latter. What is *your* point? That HIV is not just a pro- >> > blem of homosexual lifestyle? A disease that spreads >> > in the human population predominantly by anal intercourse? >> > How could it not be? >> >> My point was that what you wrote, regardless of what you probably >> meant, was wrong. If you weren't a jerk (as you turned out to be) >> you would have merely posted a correction: your use of the word >> "entirely" meant that the risk for any other type of sexual activity >> was zero and that simply isn't the case. >> >> You claimed to have some health care experience. If so, you should >> have realized that posting misleading information that unknowledgable >> members of the public might see is not a good idea, particularly >> when you state such experience up front. >> >> If you weren't so bigoted (you obviously are) you would have realized >> what I was saying - it had nothing to do with "lifestyles" real or >> imagined. > > There is nothing "misleading" in what I said. I merely cut > through decades of willful misinformation piled upon this > subject. Your refusal to deal with facts underlying this... The Gay Community is the ONLY people who dealt with the *facts* about HIV/AIDS. The Gay Community (with little if any help from anyone else) helped stem the tide of Aids. So, don't lecture anyone on the denial. Local, State and the Federal government have been in a state of denial since 1985.
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