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Article #214Re: Vote NO on Prop Eight
From: Bill Z.
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:47
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:47
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BE-VA <blackwater-evangalist@testland.net> writes: > On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:20:13 -0700, nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill > Z.) wrote: > >>"D. Stussy" <spam@bde-arc.ampr.org> writes: >> >> >>You can't wiggle out of it - if you say "we don't need more laws", >>then you should vote against Proposition 8 because it in fact creates >>a new law. > > You're wrong again. There will be no new law. The proposition simply > reinstates an existing condition that was wrongly set aside by the > liberal judiciary. That's a lie - multiple lies, actually. The text of the initiative states "Only marriage between a man and a woman will be valid or recognized in California." That's not a definition (which is what was said originally) or even a condition, but a law. Also, the California Supreme Court is not a "liberal judiciary": it is actually fairly conservative, with all but one of its members appointed by conservative Republican governors. If you are going to argue about it, at least argue on the basis of the facts.
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