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Re: guns shmuns

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From: fkk
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:34
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Here is an exact quote from the VirginiaDeclaration of Rights.
There is a lot of similarity to the 2nd amendment.

ArticleXIII

"That a well regulated Militia, composed of the Body of the People, trained to Arms,
is the proper, natural, and safe Defense of a fress State; that standing Armies in
Time of Peace, should be avoided, as dangerous to Liberty; and that, in all Cases, that the
Military should be under strict Subordination to, and governed by, the Civil Power"

Note that the Militia= body of the people.
Tranined to arms means knowing how to shoot accurately. Today we have DCM matches.

Frank


In <98tomj$fp0@news.or.intel.com>, "Hippolyte Lizard" <hippolyte.lizard@buzzard.net> writes:
>The issue does generate a lot of fine-pointed discussion, which implies
>disagreement over the meaning of the amendment and confusion over the
>purpose of firearms.
>
>If only a legislature could agree to clarify the damn thing.  Something like
>"A free people and a secure state being mutually dependent, the right of the
>people to possess arms shall not be infringed."  I dunno.
>
>Oops.  Here I go adding to the news server.  Dang it.  Waste of paper.
>
>Terry E. Toller wrote in message <3AAF0C36.9B85CE53@earthlink.net>...
>>Very well put!
>>
>>The gun issue is always clouded with confusion by those who just can't
>>understand or refuse to accept basic Constitutional fundimentals.  They try
>>their nonsensical arguements and when that doesn't work, name calling...
>>
>>Hippolyte Lizard wrote:
>>
>>> Not that I haven't learned anything.
>>>
>>> But for weeks it seems this NG has been crammed with the endless
>half-baked
>>> rantings of a small but loud collection of usenet gasbags obsessing on
>that
>>> broad intersection of law, interpretation and morality that this
>>> much-overworked subject never fails to stir up.  The arguments circle
>around
>>> each other like a small crowd of knife-fighters, none of them able to
>deal a
>>> deadly or even particularly injurious blow.  But I keep coming back,
>>> fascinated in spite of myself, hoping for a little color on the floor
>maybe;
>>> but it always looks the same and I get bored again.
>>>
>>> Oh well.  I feel a little better now.
>>
>
>
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