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In article <351ecd74.3837994@nntp.ix.netcom.com>,
  invalid@homo-sapiens.org wrote:
>
> sarah fidelibus wrote:
>
> >can't hold their own on standardized tests?  Can you imagine
> >immigrating to Vietnam
>
> Yes. I would learn Vietnamese.

Of course you would, and in the meantime you would also have to learn
mathematics, history, sciences and the rest.  Therefore, you'd need some
instruction in English.  Furthermore, giving you a standardized exam in
Vietnamese would border on the idiotic.

The Unz initiative would effectively end bilingual education in CA.  A
recent study, published in the LA Times demonstrates that ESL children
learn better in bilingual programs than they do without bilingual programs
(though both groups fall behind native speakers).  Unfortunately, 3/4 of
Californians favor ending bilingual education because they believe,
as you apparently do, that bilingual education = "not teaching them
English".

>
> If I went to Mexico I would learn Spanish.
>
> If I went to Russia I would learn Russian.
>
> I *do* think we need to have bilingual education, *but* we also need
> to teach people the language. Sure, there are many languages spoken
> here, but most people speak English, at least as a second language.
>
> I think any standardized tests should be given at a grade level where
> a student may be reasonably expected to have learned the language. The
> question is what that grade level is...

So, let's say that's the 9th grade.  So, an ESL student who immigrated here
in the eighth grade takes the same test as someone who immigrated here in
kindergarten?


ciao,
John


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