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Re: Newgroup Commands for Sac.*

#767
From: David Prenatt
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 00:00
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Jack Hamilton (jfh@acm.org) wrote:

: The newsgroups below were created without public discussion in the 
: existing sac.* newsgroups, and without any apparent demand.  I 
: don't see any reason for them to be created.  

The above assertions are inaccurate, and the conclusion reached is in 
error.  To wit:

	1)  Discussion of the sac.* USENET newsgroups has been on
again/off again for several months on sac.general (<news:sac.general>).

	2)  The ba.* domain/hierarchy carries much of the USENET traffic 
that properly belongs on the sac.* domain.

	3)  The defunct(?) sacramento.* domain that was created without
any public discussion has thwarted local efforts to expand the sac.* 
hierarchy.

	4)  I have received quite a bit of positive feedback from those 
who acknowledge the need for a showdown between the sac.* and 
sacramento.* domains, as well as the need for an expansion of the sac.* 
domain to accomodate current posters who use the ba.* domain/hierarchy.

At this point, it's not a question of whether the expansion of the sac.* 
domain was warranted, but why it took so long for someone to pick up the 
ball and run with it.  Moreover, since you (Jack Hamilton) seem so intent
on spearheading a discussion, perhaps you would like to organize a more
productive one (i.e., an RFD on issuing rm commands for the sacramento.* 
newsgroups).

: He may have meant sac.motss instead of sac.motts, but since there were
: no descriptions it's hard to say. 

	I have posted this as a correction; perhaps you would like to
issue the appropriate rm and newgroup commands if you plan on using the 
sac.motss newsgroup (I do not; I included sac.motts[sic] as an accomodation 
for those who would use it).

	Descriptions of the newsgroups?  I leave this to the
administrator(s) of the newsgroups, who will inevitably modify them.  The
expanded sac.* newsgroup hierarchy is intended to supplant those USENET
newsgroups that have languished in the sacramento.* domain for several 
months and to redistribute the USENET traffic that currently goes to the 
ba.* domain/hierarchy.

: >	Questions, comments, or concerns should be directed to John 
: >Sandhoff, sandhoff@csus.edu (<mailto:sandhoff@csus.edu>).

	Interested parties may obtain a high quality feed of the
expanded sac.* newsgroups from John Sandhoff by e-mailing him at the 
above address.  PLEASE NOTE:  John Sandhoff is *not* responsible for
issuing the recent newgroup commands in the sac.* domain.  I acted 
independently in creating these newsgroups (right or wrong), and I did
so at the prompting of a number of local sysadmins who wish to remain
out of the limelight.  My reasons are outlined above.

Very Truly Yours,

DFP,Jr.


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U.C. Davis School of Law   *                  ==*==*==                  *
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From: ez032582@barney.ucdavis.edu (David Prenatt)
Subject: Re: Newgroup Commands for Sac.*
Date: 1996/02/12
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