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Re: Vote NO on Prop Eight

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From: John Donovan
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:44
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"Bill Z." <nobody@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message 
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> LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes:
>
>> On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:17:32 -0800, nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill
>> Z.) wrote:
>>
>>>LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes:
>>>
>>>No, I think you lie - you made up that 70 percent thing and the
>>>CDC data simply is not consistent with it - the actual numbers
>>>are lower.
>>
>>    2005 Data directly from a CDC study read it and weep::
>
> Why should I "weep" when the CDC data backs up what I said?
>
>>     * Since the beginning of the epidemic, an estimated 517,992 MSM
>> (452,111 MSM and 65,881 MSM who inject drugs) had received a diagnosis
>> of AIDS, accounting for 68% of male adults and adolescents who
>> received a diagnosis of AIDS and 54% of all people who received a
>> diagnosis of AIDS [1].
>
> Yep, just what I pointed out - you gave a number that was too high.
>
>> So, I was off by three percentage points that well with in the margin
>> for error.
>
> No it isn't - you get that sort of error when you have around 1000
> cases as it follows a Poisson distribution, and the standard deviation
> (the statistical error) is the square root of that number. For a mean
> of 500,000 cases, the statistical error (which measures the random
> change from year to year) is 0.14 percent.
>
>> While I can't find the cite yet I know that CDC has upped
>> that figure to 70% since 2005
>
> You can't find a citation but "know" anyway?  And you expect us to
> believe you?
>
>>>>>Why not just admit what the actual numbers are?  That isn't asking
>>>>>a lot from you.
>>>>
>>>>  Why not accept the data from the CDC rather than continue to blow
>>>> smoke up your own ass.
>>>
>>>Why do you lie so much?
>>
>> It very clear who is lying  and it's not me. I back up what I say,
>> you, on the other hand, whine a lot.
>
> It is very clear you are lying.  One lie you tell repeatedly is to
> attribute all male-to-male sexual contact cases to homosexuals while
> ignoring bisexuals.

Bill, he doesn't even read the stuff he cuts/pastes.

He finds something he things supports his point of view...and posts it here.

If he can't be bothered thinking on his own, then why bother with all his 
cut/paste crap...
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From: "John Donovan" <5l40sdm02@sneakemail.com>
Newsgroups: sac.general,ba.general,ba.politics,la.general,scruz.general
Subject: Re: Vote NO on Prop Eight
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:44:19 -0500
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