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Article #90Re: Vote NO on Prop Eight
From: John Donovan
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:44
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:44
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"Bill Z." <nobody@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message news:87tz8wiw44.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net... > LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes: > >> On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:17:32 -0800, nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill >> Z.) wrote: >> >>>LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes: >>> >>>No, I think you lie - you made up that 70 percent thing and the >>>CDC data simply is not consistent with it - the actual numbers >>>are lower. >> >> 2005 Data directly from a CDC study read it and weep:: > > Why should I "weep" when the CDC data backs up what I said? > >> * Since the beginning of the epidemic, an estimated 517,992 MSM >> (452,111 MSM and 65,881 MSM who inject drugs) had received a diagnosis >> of AIDS, accounting for 68% of male adults and adolescents who >> received a diagnosis of AIDS and 54% of all people who received a >> diagnosis of AIDS [1]. > > Yep, just what I pointed out - you gave a number that was too high. > >> So, I was off by three percentage points that well with in the margin >> for error. > > No it isn't - you get that sort of error when you have around 1000 > cases as it follows a Poisson distribution, and the standard deviation > (the statistical error) is the square root of that number. For a mean > of 500,000 cases, the statistical error (which measures the random > change from year to year) is 0.14 percent. > >> While I can't find the cite yet I know that CDC has upped >> that figure to 70% since 2005 > > You can't find a citation but "know" anyway? And you expect us to > believe you? > >>>>>Why not just admit what the actual numbers are? That isn't asking >>>>>a lot from you. >>>> >>>> Why not accept the data from the CDC rather than continue to blow >>>> smoke up your own ass. >>> >>>Why do you lie so much? >> >> It very clear who is lying and it's not me. I back up what I say, >> you, on the other hand, whine a lot. > > It is very clear you are lying. One lie you tell repeatedly is to > attribute all male-to-male sexual contact cases to homosexuals while > ignoring bisexuals. Bill, he doesn't even read the stuff he cuts/pastes. He finds something he things supports his point of view...and posts it here. If he can't be bothered thinking on his own, then why bother with all his cut/paste crap...
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