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Article #160Re: How Can I Avoid Jury Duty in Oakland?
From: MB
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 00:07
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 00:07
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Michael Dix wrote: > > Scott Helms wrote (to sharx): > > > I definitely agree. The problem is that your whole philosophy seems > > to rest on the assumption that a person's first responsibility is to > > serve the state, not to serve himself and his own family first. > > We have a responsibility to contribute to the state, since we and > our families benefit from the state. If you think jury duty is > a disproportionate imposition, work to change the law. I "contribute" over half of my wages, in taxes of one type or another. I don't get much of a return. Others do however. > > > What's sad to me is that governments generally offer such a pittance > > for payment that it has to force, at gunpoint, unwilling people to > > serve on a jury. I say why not have full time, professional jurors? > > A juror is much more effective if he WANTS to do the job, not when > > he's forced to. Judges serve voluntarily, and there's no reason why > > the same should not apply to jurors. > > The advantage of the current jury system is that the decisions are > made by regular folks, using common sense. Full time professional > jurors would soon become jaded and thus worthless. You might as > well let judges decide all the cases. They do, it's called jury nullification. If you think about it, > the jury system is a good idea in the same way term limits are > a good idea: it keeps the hacks from staying in office decade > after decade. > > In fact, professional jurors would be much easier to corrupt > than our current random Everyman jurors. I am already corrupted. I'm pissed at them for taking my money. I can't even afford a my own home. And jury duty, in which I lose even more money, puts me further and further behind. > > -- > mjdix@sonic.net Mike 000000000000000
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