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Re: Minimum Hourly Wage for Computer Professionals?

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From: Jeffrey Siegal
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 23:32
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John R Pierce wrote:
> what if you are paid on a weekly/monthly/annual basis rather than hourly?
> i.e.  salary rather than wages?

The test is going to be based on on the wages paid divided by the hours 
worked, and if the hours worked exceed 40 hours in a week (with some 
other complicating factors I don't remember), overtime is also due.

If you're being paid on weekly/monthly/annual basis, then your employer 
is claiming that you are exempt.  Whether or not that is a valid 
position is going to depend on the actual facts and circumstances, not 
just what the employer claims.

There have been several high profile lawsuits of this sort, some of 
which have been lost at great expense by the employers (must pay back 
pay for overtime, plus interest, and probably penalties), and countless 
lower-profile disputes that have been settled quietly.

A lot of people in the software field who have no managerial 
responsibilities or authority and don't satisfy the wage test are being 
improperly classified as exempt and should be getting paid by the hour, 
plus overtime.  For that matter, a lot of people who have no basis for 
being classified as exempt at all are improperly classified as exempt.

Aside from the software industry, another industry that is rife with 
abuse is retail, where so-called "managers" who have no real managerial 
responsibilities or authority are improperly classified as exempt, and 
they aren't paid as well as most software developers either.
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From: Jeffrey Siegal <jbs@quiotix.com>
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