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Started by Ross Smith
Thu, 31 Dec 1992 11:35
Unflattering descriptions
Author: Ross Smith
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 11:35
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 11:35
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I'm trying to compile a list of the more, shall we say, unflattering descriptions that have been applied to various aircraft over the years. Does anyone know any good ones? The short list I've been able to recall myself goes something like this ... sources omitted to protect the guilty :-) Buccaneer : "The Banana Bomber." (The prototype was given the codename ARNA (A Royal Navy Aircraft), and "Blackburn ARNA" soon became "Black Banana".) E-3 Sentry : "A Boeing 707 being raped by a flying saucer." F-4 Phantom : "So ugly I thought they'd delivered it upside down." F-15 Eagle : "Living proof of the American theory that even a brick will fly if you hang enough engines on it." F-104 Starfighter : "A missile with a man in it." F-117 : "The first aircraft designed by electrical engineers." Mitsubishi G4M : "The one-shot lighter." (A Japanese bomber of WW2, with a habit of catching fire at the slightest provocation.) Tu-95 Bear : "A triumph of brute force over the laws of aerodynamics." Any more? (The above are all military planes, but I'm interested in civilian examples too.) -- ...... Ross Smith (Wanganui, NZ) ...... alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz ...... "I blame you for the moonlit sky and the dream that died with the Eagle's flight I blame you for the moonlit nights when I wonder why are the seas still dry Don't blame me, sleeping satellite" (Tasmin Archer) --
Re: Unflattering descriptions
Author: Doug Bloomberg
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1993 23:26
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1993 23:26
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In article <alien.026m@acheron.amigans.gen.nz> alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz (Ross Smith) writes: >I'm trying to compile a list of the more, shall we say, unflattering >descriptions that have been applied to various aircraft over the years. >Does anyone know any good ones? The short list I've been able to recall >myself goes something like this ... sources omitted to protect the >guilty :-) > >Buccaneer : "The Banana Bomber." (The prototype was given the codename ARNA >(A Royal Navy Aircraft), and "Blackburn ARNA" soon became "Black Banana".) > >E-3 Sentry : "A Boeing 707 being raped by a flying saucer." > > etc. Beech Bonanza "Forktailed Doctor Killer" Doug Bloomberg V-35B N8171R
Re: Unflattering descriptions
Author: Jerry Szopinski Mfg 4-6983
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 12:00
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 12:00
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Ross Smith (alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz) wrote:
: I'm trying to compile a list of the more, shall we say, unflattering
: descriptions that have been applied to various aircraft over the years.
: Does anyone know any good ones? The short list I've been able to recall
: myself goes something like this ... sources omitted to protect the
: guilty :-)
:
: Buccaneer : "The Banana Bomber." (The prototype was given the codename ARNA
: (A Royal Navy Aircraft), and "Blackburn ARNA" soon became "Black Banana".)
:
: E-3 Sentry : "A Boeing 707 being raped by a flying saucer."
:
: F-4 Phantom : "So ugly I thought they'd delivered it upside down."
:
: F-15 Eagle : "Living proof of the American theory that even a brick will
: fly if you hang enough engines on it."
:
: F-104 Starfighter : "A missile with a man in it."
:
: F-117 : "The first aircraft designed by electrical engineers."
:
: Mitsubishi G4M : "The one-shot lighter." (A Japanese bomber of WW2, with a
: habit of catching fire at the slightest provocation.)
:
: Tu-95 Bear : "A triumph of brute force over the laws of aerodynamics."
:
: Any more? (The above are all military planes, but I'm interested in civilian
: examples too.)
:
: --
: ...... Ross Smith (Wanganui, NZ) ...... alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz ......
:
A-7 Corsair - "SLUF" - Slow Little Ugly Fucker.
A-10 Thunderbolt II - Warthog('nuff said).
DC-3/A-47 - Flying Taxi.
A-1 Skyraider - Flying Dump Truck.
B-26 Marauder - Widow Maker.
F-105 Thundercheif - THUD.
B-24 Liberator - Flying Boxcar.
F-16 Falcon - Electric Jet.
I hope you don't mind the vugarity in my first example, but we are dealing
with military aircraft. I've been in and around aviation ever since I was
knee high to an olio strut so I'd be interested in any more names/descrip-
tions that anyone can come up with. I'll keep scratching my head and
searching my archives for anything that I can add to this list.
Jerry
"It riles them to beleive that you perceive the web they weave and keep on
thinking free! -- Moody Blues
: --
:
Re: Unflattering descriptions
Author: jbatka
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 16:45
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 16:45
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> A-7 Corsair - "SLUF" - Slow Little Ugly Fucker.
>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Don't foret
B-52 Stratofortress - "BUFF" - Big Ugly Fat Fucker.
I'm sure you'll get lots of responses with this one.
--
Jim Batka | Always remember ... | Buckaroo
Modemman | No matter where you go, there you are! | Bonzai
--------------+--------------------------------------------+--------------
| Work Email: BATKAJ@CCMAIL.DAYTON.SAIC.COM | Elvis is
| Home Email: JBATKA@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU | DEAD!
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Re: Unflattering descriptions
Author: August Horvath
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 19:06
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 19:06
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The Westland Watipi was often called the "Whatapity" by those unfortunate enough to crew it. august horvath <augustho@usc.edu>
Re: Unflattering descriptions
Author: Michael C. Tanner
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 12:51
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 12:51
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In article <1993Jan4.120010.5708@mr.med.ge.com> szopinsk@picard.med.ge.com (Jerry Szopinski Mfg 4-6983) writes:
B-26 Marauder - Widow Maker.
AKA "The Baltimore Whore" (because it had "no visible means of support", an
old legalism for proving prostitution -- pilots were
leary of the short narrow chord wing, and Martin was
in Baltimore)
I've also heard "One a Day in Tampa Bay". Transition training was in Florida
and they had a lot of accidents.
-- mike
Re: Unflattering descriptions
Author: Robert F. Solomon
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 14:43
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 14:43
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Here's one I got from my son in the Navy: A-6 Intruder - The Flying Pig > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Robert F. Solomon | What I Said Is Not Necessarily | | NASA Lewis Research Center | What I Meant. | | Cleveland, Ohio | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Primary Address: solomon@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov | | Alternate Address: ad912@cleveland.freenet.edu | -------------------------------------------------------------------------
Re: Unflattering descriptions
Author: Lindy Sisk
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 13:48
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 13:48
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The F-4 Phantom was also known as The Rhino, because it was in fact as ugly as a rhinocerous. -- Linden B. (Lindy) Sisk | Voice: +1-713-432-3294 Ham: AK5N Senior Research Electrical Engineer | Fax: +1-713-432-6908 Bix: lbsisk Texaco, Inc. P.O. Box 425 | MCIMail: lbsisk CIS: 72047,2645 Bellaire, TX 77402-0425 | Internet: sisklb@texaco.com
Re: Unflattering descriptions
Author: Bob Blackshaw
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 15:19
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 15:19
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In <alien.026m@acheron.amigans.gen.nz> alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz (Ross Smith) writes: >I'm trying to compile a list of the more, shall we say, unflattering >descriptions that have been applied to various aircraft over the years. >Does anyone know any good ones? The short list I've been able to recall >myself goes something like this ... sources omitted to protect the >guilty :-) >Buccaneer : "The Banana Bomber." (The prototype was given the codename ARNA >(A Royal Navy Aircraft), and "Blackburn ARNA" soon became "Black Banana".) >E-3 Sentry : "A Boeing 707 being raped by a flying saucer." >F-4 Phantom : "So ugly I thought they'd delivered it upside down." >F-15 Eagle : "Living proof of the American theory that even a brick will >fly if you hang enough engines on it." >F-104 Starfighter : "A missile with a man in it." Also described as a pregnant hatpin on a razor blade. Known in the RCAF as the widow-maker. >F-117 : "The first aircraft designed by electrical engineers." >Mitsubishi G4M : "The one-shot lighter." (A Japanese bomber of WW2, with a >habit of catching fire at the slightest provocation.) >Tu-95 Bear : "A triumph of brute force over the laws of aerodynamics." >Any more? (The above are all military planes, but I'm interested in civilian >examples too.) Well, old geezers like me remember the GeeBee Racer, can't remember any unflattering names, but it was basically a humungous radial engine with an extremely short body and wings - your basic bumble bee. The the WWII Bell Aircobra known as the Iron Dog - suitable for slow, wide circles. There was also a Martin twin engined bomber that I think they called the Flying Coffin. They say the Florida gulf is full of them. There is a humpbacked biplane they use for cropdusting. Ugliest thing I ever saw, but it flies. Can't remember who builds it. >-- >...... Ross Smith (Wanganui, NZ) ...... alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz ...... >"I blame you for the moonlit sky and the dream that died with the Eagle's flight >I blame you for the moonlit nights when I wonder why are the seas still dry >Don't blame me, sleeping satellite" (Tasmin Archer) Bob >--
Re: Unflattering descriptions
Author: steve hix
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 19:59
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 19:59
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In article <MTANNER.93Jan5125110@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> mtanner@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Michael C. Tanner) writes: >In article <1993Jan4.120010.5708@mr.med.ge.com> szopinsk@picard.med.ge.com (Jerry Szopinski Mfg 4-6983) writes: > > B-26 Marauder - Widow Maker. > >AKA "The Baltimore Whore" (because it had "no visible means of support", an > old legalism for proving prostitution -- pilots were > leary of the short narrow chord wing, and Martin was > in Baltimore) > >I've also heard "One a Day in Tampa Bay". Transition training was in Florida >and they had a lot of accidents. Once they got into combat, though, the B-26 had one of, if not *the*, lowest combat loss rate for bombers during the war. -- ------------------------------------------------------- | Some things are too important not to give away | | to everybody else and have none left for yourself. | |------------------------ Dieter the car salesman-----|
Re: Unflattering descriptions
Author: steve hix
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 20:02
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 20:02
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In article <bob1.726333584@cos> bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw) writes: > >There is a humpbacked biplane they use for cropdusting. Ugliest thing >I ever saw, but it flies. Can't remember who builds it. Grumman AgCat. Once proposed to the Army as a close-support aircraft. It was (is) rugged, could carry a good load, and is very maneuverable. Just try to get any general to sign off on buying a biplane in the age of jet aircraft, though... -- ------------------------------------------------------- | Some things are too important not to give away | | to everybody else and have none left for yourself. | |------------------------ Dieter the car salesman-----|
Re: Unflattering descriptions
Author: USENET News System
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 02:01
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 02:01
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In article <lkmemtINNe38@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> fiddler@concertina.Eng.Sun.COM (steve hix) writes: >Grumman AgCat. > >Once proposed to the Army as a close-support aircraft. It was (is) >rugged, could carry a good load, and is very maneuverable. > >Just try to get any general to sign off on buying a biplane in the >age of jet aircraft, though... > Well, there is a re-engined AgCat that operates from the field I often fly from that sports a turbine up front. The long pointy nose looks a lot better than the fat lump that graced the front before surgery. It's a lot quieter too. The worlds first (turbo) jet biplane?
Re: Unflattering descriptions
Author: Paul Tomblin
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 12:15
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 12:15
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news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System) writes:
>In article <lkmemtINNe38@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> fiddler@concertina.Eng.Sun.COM (steve hix) writes:
>>Grumman AgCat.
>Well, there is a re-engined AgCat that operates from the field I often fly from
>that sports a turbine up front. The long pointy nose looks a lot better than the
>fat lump that graced the front before surgery. It's a lot quieter too.
>The worlds first (turbo) jet biplane?
I've seen pictures of a Polish cropduster biplane that was a real jet, not a
turboprop. The idea was that Kerosene is a lot easier to come by in Eastern
Europe than av-gas.
--
Paul Tomblin, pt@compass.gvc.com
(This is not an official opinion of GeoVision Systems Inc.)
"I need that trephination stuff like I need another hole in the head"
-- Kim L. Greer in alt.folklore.urban
Re: Unflattering descriptions
Author: Jan Mattsson
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 15:22
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 15:22
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pt@geovision.gvc.com (Paul Tomblin) writes: >>The worlds first (turbo) jet biplane? >I've seen pictures of a Polish cropduster biplane that was a real jet, not a >turboprop. I believe it was called the Belphegor, or something similar. Quite likely the ugliest plane ever built. >The idea was that Kerosene is a lot easier to come by in Eastern >Europe than av-gas. But why a *jet*? Turboprops don't run on avgas. -- Jan Mattsson, CS student, Uppsala University, Sweden janm@minsk.docs.uu.se
Re: Unflattering descriptions
Author: bozek
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 12:05
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 12:05
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In article <1993Jan6.134850.27749@texhrc.uucp>, lbs@texhrc.uucp (Lindy Sisk) writes:
> The F-4 Phantom was also known as The Rhino, because it was in fact
> as ugly as a rhinocerous.
One time in Turkey, calling in target for the valley below us
we had a pair of Phantoms grace us.
I thought they were beautiful. F14's, 15's 18's,... A10's seam pale
in comparison. Each to his own.
Re: Unflattering descriptions
Author: John A. Weeks III
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 18:27
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 18:27
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In <1993Jan6.134850.27749@texhrc.uucp> lbs@texhrc.uucp (Lindy Sisk) writes: > The F-4 Phantom was also known as The Rhino [...] I have also heard it called a "brick" or "slick brick" by a friend who did time in Viet Nam. This was because the F-4 demonstrated the theory that, given enough power, even a brick could be made to fly. -john- -- ============================================================================== John A. Weeks III (612) 942-6969 john@newave.mn.org Newave Communications, Ltd. ..!uunet!tcnet!newave!john
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