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16 total messages Started by Ross Smith Thu, 31 Dec 1992 11:35
Unflattering descriptions
#696
Author: Ross Smith
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 11:35
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I'm trying to compile a list of the more, shall we say, unflattering
descriptions that have been applied to various aircraft over the years.
Does anyone know any good ones? The short list I've been able to recall
myself goes something like this ... sources omitted to protect the
guilty :-)

Buccaneer : "The Banana Bomber." (The prototype was given the codename ARNA
(A Royal Navy Aircraft), and "Blackburn ARNA" soon became "Black Banana".)

E-3 Sentry : "A Boeing 707 being raped by a flying saucer."

F-4 Phantom : "So ugly I thought they'd delivered it upside down."

F-15 Eagle : "Living proof of the American theory that even a brick will
fly if you hang enough engines on it."

F-104 Starfighter : "A missile with a man in it."

F-117 : "The first aircraft designed by electrical engineers."

Mitsubishi G4M : "The one-shot lighter." (A Japanese bomber of WW2, with a
habit of catching fire at the slightest provocation.)

Tu-95 Bear : "A triumph of brute force over the laws of aerodynamics."

Any more? (The above are all military planes, but I'm interested in civilian
examples too.)

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"I blame you for the moonlit sky and the dream that died with the Eagle's flight
I blame you for the moonlit nights when I wonder why are the seas still dry
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Re: Unflattering descriptions
#698
Author: Doug Bloomberg
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1993 23:26
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In article <alien.026m@acheron.amigans.gen.nz> alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz (Ross Smith) writes:
>I'm trying to compile a list of the more, shall we say, unflattering
>descriptions that have been applied to various aircraft over the years.
>Does anyone know any good ones? The short list I've been able to recall
>myself goes something like this ... sources omitted to protect the
>guilty :-)
>
>Buccaneer : "The Banana Bomber." (The prototype was given the codename ARNA
>(A Royal Navy Aircraft), and "Blackburn ARNA" soon became "Black Banana".)
>
>E-3 Sentry : "A Boeing 707 being raped by a flying saucer."
>
>  etc.

	Beech Bonanza   "Forktailed Doctor Killer"

	Doug Bloomberg
	V-35B  N8171R
Re: Unflattering descriptions
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Author: Jerry Szopinski Mfg 4-6983
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 12:00
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Ross Smith (alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz) wrote:
: I'm trying to compile a list of the more, shall we say, unflattering
: descriptions that have been applied to various aircraft over the years.
: Does anyone know any good ones? The short list I've been able to recall
: myself goes something like this ... sources omitted to protect the
: guilty :-)
: 
: Buccaneer : "The Banana Bomber." (The prototype was given the codename ARNA
: (A Royal Navy Aircraft), and "Blackburn ARNA" soon became "Black Banana".)
: 
: E-3 Sentry : "A Boeing 707 being raped by a flying saucer."
: 
: F-4 Phantom : "So ugly I thought they'd delivered it upside down."
: 
: F-15 Eagle : "Living proof of the American theory that even a brick will
: fly if you hang enough engines on it."
: 
: F-104 Starfighter : "A missile with a man in it."
: 
: F-117 : "The first aircraft designed by electrical engineers."
: 
: Mitsubishi G4M : "The one-shot lighter." (A Japanese bomber of WW2, with a
: habit of catching fire at the slightest provocation.)
: 
: Tu-95 Bear : "A triumph of brute force over the laws of aerodynamics."
: 
: Any more? (The above are all military planes, but I'm interested in civilian
: examples too.)
: 
: --
: ...... Ross Smith (Wanganui, NZ) ...... alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz ......
: 
A-7 Corsair - "SLUF" - Slow Little Ugly Fucker. 

A-10 Thunderbolt II - Warthog('nuff said).

DC-3/A-47 - Flying Taxi.

A-1 Skyraider - Flying Dump Truck.

B-26 Marauder - Widow Maker.

F-105 Thundercheif - THUD.

B-24 Liberator - Flying Boxcar.

F-16 Falcon - Electric Jet.


I hope you don't mind the vugarity in my first example, but we are dealing
with military aircraft.  I've been in and around aviation ever since I was
knee high to an olio strut so I'd be interested in any more names/descrip-
tions that anyone can come up with.  I'll keep scratching my head and 
searching my archives for anything that I can add to this list.

Jerry

"It riles them to beleive that you perceive the web they weave and keep on
thinking free! -- Moody Blues

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Re: Unflattering descriptions
#705
Author: jbatka
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 16:45
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> A-7 Corsair - "SLUF" - Slow Little Ugly Fucker. 
> 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Don't foret

B-52 Stratofortress - "BUFF" - Big Ugly Fat Fucker.

I'm sure you'll get lots of responses with this one.


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Re: Unflattering descriptions
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Author: August Horvath
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 19:06
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The Westland Watipi was often called the "Whatapity" by those unfortunate
enough to crew it.

august horvath <augustho@usc.edu>
Re: Unflattering descriptions
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Author: Michael C. Tanner
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 12:51
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In article <1993Jan4.120010.5708@mr.med.ge.com> szopinsk@picard.med.ge.com (Jerry Szopinski Mfg 4-6983) writes:

   B-26 Marauder - Widow Maker.

AKA "The Baltimore Whore" (because it had "no visible means of support", an
                          old legalism for proving prostitution -- pilots were
                          leary of the short narrow chord wing, and Martin was 
                          in Baltimore)

I've also heard "One a Day in Tampa Bay".  Transition training was in Florida
and they had a lot of accidents.

-- mike
Re: Unflattering descriptions
#713
Author: Robert F. Solomon
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 14:43
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Here's one I got from my son in the Navy:

A-6 Intruder - The Flying Pig
> 
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Re: Unflattering descriptions
#734
Author: Lindy Sisk
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 13:48
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The F-4 Phantom was also known as The Rhino, because it was in fact
as ugly as a rhinocerous.


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Re: Unflattering descriptions
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Author: Bob Blackshaw
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 15:19
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In <alien.026m@acheron.amigans.gen.nz> alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz (Ross Smith) writes:

>I'm trying to compile a list of the more, shall we say, unflattering
>descriptions that have been applied to various aircraft over the years.
>Does anyone know any good ones? The short list I've been able to recall
>myself goes something like this ... sources omitted to protect the
>guilty :-)

>Buccaneer : "The Banana Bomber." (The prototype was given the codename ARNA
>(A Royal Navy Aircraft), and "Blackburn ARNA" soon became "Black Banana".)

>E-3 Sentry : "A Boeing 707 being raped by a flying saucer."

>F-4 Phantom : "So ugly I thought they'd delivered it upside down."

>F-15 Eagle : "Living proof of the American theory that even a brick will
>fly if you hang enough engines on it."

>F-104 Starfighter : "A missile with a man in it."

Also described as a pregnant hatpin on a razor blade. Known in the
RCAF as the widow-maker.

>F-117 : "The first aircraft designed by electrical engineers."

>Mitsubishi G4M : "The one-shot lighter." (A Japanese bomber of WW2, with a
>habit of catching fire at the slightest provocation.)

>Tu-95 Bear : "A triumph of brute force over the laws of aerodynamics."

>Any more? (The above are all military planes, but I'm interested in civilian
>examples too.)

Well, old geezers like me remember the GeeBee Racer, can't remember any
unflattering names, but it was basically a humungous radial engine with
an extremely short body and wings - your basic bumble bee.

The the WWII Bell Aircobra known as the Iron Dog - suitable for slow,
wide circles.

There was also a Martin twin engined bomber that I think they called
the Flying Coffin. They say the Florida gulf is full of them.

There is a humpbacked biplane they use for cropdusting. Ugliest thing
I ever saw, but it flies. Can't remember who builds it.


>--
>...... Ross Smith (Wanganui, NZ) ...... alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz ......

>"I blame you for the moonlit sky and the dream that died with the Eagle's flight
>I blame you for the moonlit nights when I wonder why are the seas still dry
>Don't blame me, sleeping satellite"                              (Tasmin Archer)

Bob
>--
Re: Unflattering descriptions
#736
Author: steve hix
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 19:59
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In article <MTANNER.93Jan5125110@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> mtanner@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Michael C. Tanner) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.120010.5708@mr.med.ge.com> szopinsk@picard.med.ge.com (Jerry Szopinski Mfg 4-6983) writes:
>
>   B-26 Marauder - Widow Maker.
>
>AKA "The Baltimore Whore" (because it had "no visible means of support", an
>                          old legalism for proving prostitution -- pilots were
>                          leary of the short narrow chord wing, and Martin was 
>                          in Baltimore)
>
>I've also heard "One a Day in Tampa Bay".  Transition training was in Florida
>and they had a lot of accidents.

Once they got into combat, though, the B-26 had one of, if not *the*, lowest
combat loss rate for bombers during the war.











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Re: Unflattering descriptions
#738
Author: steve hix
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 20:02
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In article <bob1.726333584@cos> bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw) writes:
>
>There is a humpbacked biplane they use for cropdusting. Ugliest thing
>I ever saw, but it flies. Can't remember who builds it.

Grumman AgCat.

Once proposed to the Army as a close-support aircraft.  It was (is)
rugged, could carry a good load, and is very maneuverable.

Just try to get any general to sign off on buying a biplane in the
age of jet aircraft, though...



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Re: Unflattering descriptions
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Author: USENET News System
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 02:01
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In article <lkmemtINNe38@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> fiddler@concertina.Eng.Sun.COM (steve hix) writes:
>Grumman AgCat.
>
>Once proposed to the Army as a close-support aircraft.  It was (is)
>rugged, could carry a good load, and is very maneuverable.
>
>Just try to get any general to sign off on buying a biplane in the
>age of jet aircraft, though...
>
Well, there is a re-engined AgCat that operates from the field I often fly from
that sports a turbine up front. The long pointy nose looks a lot better than the
fat lump that graced the front before surgery. It's a lot quieter too.

The worlds first (turbo) jet biplane?
Re: Unflattering descriptions
#746
Author: Paul Tomblin
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 12:15
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news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System) writes:

>In article <lkmemtINNe38@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> fiddler@concertina.Eng.Sun.COM (steve hix) writes:
>>Grumman AgCat.
>Well, there is a re-engined AgCat that operates from the field I often fly from
>that sports a turbine up front. The long pointy nose looks a lot better than the
>fat lump that graced the front before surgery. It's a lot quieter too.

>The worlds first (turbo) jet biplane?

I've seen pictures of a Polish cropduster biplane that was a real jet, not a
turboprop.  The idea was that Kerosene is a lot easier to come by in Eastern
Europe than av-gas.


-- 
Paul Tomblin, pt@compass.gvc.com
(This is not an official opinion of GeoVision Systems Inc.)
"I need that trephination stuff like I need another hole in the head"
    --  Kim L. Greer in alt.folklore.urban
Re: Unflattering descriptions
#747
Author: Jan Mattsson
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 15:22
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pt@geovision.gvc.com (Paul Tomblin) writes:

>>The worlds first (turbo) jet biplane?

>I've seen pictures of a Polish cropduster biplane that was a real jet, not a
>turboprop.  

I believe it was called the Belphegor, or something similar.
Quite likely the ugliest plane ever built.

>The idea was that Kerosene is a lot easier to come by in Eastern
>Europe than av-gas.

But why a *jet*? Turboprops don't run on avgas.
--
Jan Mattsson, CS student, Uppsala University, Sweden
janm@minsk.docs.uu.se
Re: Unflattering descriptions
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Author: bozek
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 12:05
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In article <1993Jan6.134850.27749@texhrc.uucp>, lbs@texhrc.uucp (Lindy Sisk) writes:
> The F-4 Phantom was also known as The Rhino, because it was in fact
> as ugly as a rhinocerous.

     One time in Turkey, calling in target for the valley below us

we had a pair of Phantoms grace us.

I thought they were beautiful. F14's, 15's 18's,... A10's seam pale

in comparison. Each to his own.
Re: Unflattering descriptions
#774
Author: John A. Weeks III
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 18:27
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In <1993Jan6.134850.27749@texhrc.uucp> lbs@texhrc.uucp (Lindy Sisk) writes:
> The F-4 Phantom was also known as The Rhino [...]

I have also heard it called a "brick" or "slick brick" by a friend who
did time in Viet Nam.  This was because the F-4 demonstrated the theory
that, given enough power, even a brick could be made to fly.

-john-

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