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leom@rarefruit.com wrote:
> 
> What commercial mango (grafted, probably) is more dwarfing, in your
> estimate?  The question was asked of me by a fellow grower, on our Rare
> Fruit Newsletter Online (http://rarefruit.com) and I have only a limited
> knowledge for the trees I have.  In my limited experience, I have found
> that all seedlings seem to be far more vigorous and bigger than all
> grafted trees.
> Thanks!
> Leo
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Hi, Leo:

The smallest mango tree I know of is the Julie, which I had on my farm
in Central America. I planted one here in SW Florida, and a cold snap
killed it, so they are not very cold resistant.

Seedling mango trees may sometimes grow true to the parent stock, and
may not. You never know what you will get. This is the way new mango
varieties are discovered, but it takes a few years to know what you
have. If you want to be sure of what you are planting, go with the
grafted stock every time.

Bill Lady

leom@rarefruit.com wrote:

>What commercial mango (grafted, probably) is more dwarfing, in your
>estimate?  The question was asked of me by a fellow grower, on our Rare
>Fruit Newsletter Online (http://rarefruit.com) and I have only a limited
                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  Mangos Rare ??

They grow wild in parks and by the road-side here !!  Most older
houses in Brisbane have a Mango tree in the back yard !

>knowledge for the trees I have.  In my limited experience, I have found
>that all seedlings seem to be far more vigorous and bigger than all
>grafted trees.
>Thanks!
>Leo

The main wild mango here are the bowan mango.  A bowan tree will
grow huge ! (>15 Meters high and wide).  However, most 
small (ie < 3 Meters) are others grafted onto mango
stock.  One I have is one from  Vietnam grafted onto
a bowan stock. I think it is called a "Nam-Doc" ?
(I lost the card !)  These grafted mango's are a
bit nicer than the bowen mango's.


Cheers


Rob Logie

Hi, I am an Australian Horticulturist.  I have a long-standing interest
in the growing of tropical and subtropical fruit trees.

Some mango trees do grow smaller than others.  The main commercial
variety here in Australia is known as Kensington Pride.  To my palate,
this variety is superior in every way to most others available here.  We
get Carabao mangoes, and indian mangoes here from time to time, and none
can hold a candle to our mainstay variety.  

Its seeds are polyembryonic, of which only one embryo is usually the
result of sexual reproduction.  The remaining embryos are usually
asexual - ie clones of the mother plant.

Whether or not this variety will grow in your area is another question. 
With regards to size of the tree, mangoes respond well to pruning, and
that is the most commonly used method for managing size in Australia.

Cheers

Brian White.

rlogie@powerup.com.au_REMOVE_BEFORE_REPLY (Rob Logie) writes:

>The main wild mango here are the bowan mango.  A bowan tree will
>grow huge ! (>15 Meters high and wide).  ...

Just in nitpicking mode.  :-)

For "bowan" read "Bowen" -- the town in north Queensland [closer to
the central coast in fact, for those aliens reaching for their atlases]
where the variety was first popularised.  It's now sold mostly under
the name Kensington Pride, which may have been its official name at
some earlier time before we Queenslanders knew it as the Bowen mango.

>  ...   One I have is one from  Vietnam grafted onto
>a bowan stock. I think it is called a "Nam-Doc" ?
>(I lost the card !)  These grafted mango's are a
>bit nicer than the bowen mango's.

Now in *very* serious mode.  :^)

No one could *possibly* prefer another variety to the Bowen! --
Clean your keyboard immediately, Rob.

Cheers,  Ian S.


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Brian White <hewlett@ozemail.com.au> writes:

>Some mango trees do grow smaller than others.  The main commercial
>variety here in Australia is known as Kensington Pride.  To my palate,
>this variety is superior in every way to most others available here.  We
>get Carabao mangoes, and indian mangoes here from time to time, and none
>can hold a candle to our mainstay variety.  

And I hope Rob Logie read this too!  :-)

>Its seeds are polyembryonic, of which only one embryo is usually the
>result of sexual reproduction.  The remaining embryos are usually
>asexual - ie clones of the mother plant.

The *big* question is, how do I know which is the one I don't want?
Some folk say it's the biggest of the batch (which I could swallow,
on the basis of hybrid vigour) and others say it's the runt.

As one who can never win a raffle, and who invariably weeds out *all*
the female pawpaw seedlings, this distinction is a serious matter.

Cheers,  Ian S.

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Ian Staples                        MS-Mail: staplesi@dpi.qld.gov.au
c/- P.O. Box 1054 MAREEBA          Phone  : +61 (0)70 928 555 Home 924 847
Queensland Australia 4880            Fax  : +61 (0)70 923 593   "   "   "

Sorry, I didn't see the original posting,    but one variety that is
somewhat "dwarfish" in its growing habits is "Julie."   It doesn't do all
that well in Florida, where the anthracnose is pretty hard on it.  I've
heard it does well in places like Jamaica, though.   And, though small,
the fruit is well liked.