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3 total messages Started by mdkj Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:47
CO2 levels
#260
Author: mdkj
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:47
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I have been keeping plants in my two tanks for quite a while, and although they
grow well, they tend to stay smaller than what they were when I originally
bought them.  As an example, I bought a giant amazon (A. bleheri) 6 months ago
with leaves (plus stems) that reached about 15 in.  Now, all new leaves are
only half that size (most of the difference is in the stem).  The same happens
with my cryptos and hygrophilas.  
I add weekly iron and trace elements, and have laterite in the bottom gravel. 
I use 3 40W Triton bulbs on the 70G tank and a reverse-flow Eheim undergravel
filter.  I have a relatively small amount of
hair algae among my floating plants.
My question is: could this lack of "big" growth be the result of CO2
deficiency?  If so, what would be an acceptable level and how is it reachable
(preferably without having to buy a $$$ diffuser...)?
Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated,

John Opsomer
opsomer@orie.cornell.edu
Re: CO2 levels
#263
Author: Shaji Bhaskar
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:09
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In article <1992Nov21.164728.16086@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> mdkj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>I have been keeping plants in my two tanks for quite a while, and although they
>grow well, they tend to stay smaller than what they were when I originally
>bought them.  As an example, I bought a giant amazon (A. bleheri) 6 months ago
>with leaves (plus stems) that reached about 15 in.  Now, all new leaves are
>only half that size (most of the difference is in the stem).  The same happens
>with my cryptos and hygrophilas.  

The difference in stalk length of the sword plant could be because the
plant you bought had been grown in crowded conditions, forcing the
leaves to grow longer to reach the light.  Still, 8" is rather small
for an E. bleheri leaf.  I have noticed that some species of crypts
(C. nevilii for one) tends to have smaller leaves in my tank.  I think
this was probably because the plants I bought had been grown emersed.
However, Hygro species usually have larger (and sometimes dramatically
different) leaves under water than above, so you should not be seeing
a reduction in their leaf size.  What species of Hygrophila do you have?
 
>I add weekly iron and trace elements, and have laterite in the bottom gravel. 
>I use 3 40W Triton bulbs on the 70G tank and a reverse-flow Eheim undergravel
>filter.  I have a relatively small amount of
>hair algae among my floating plants.
>My question is: could this lack of "big" growth be the result of CO2
>deficiency? 

You could try adding a couple of 40W lights.  But if you are asking
whether your plants will grow bigger with CO2 than without, my experience
says yes.  I am sure most people who use CO2 injection will agree that
it is the most important aid to keeping lots of large, healthy, fast 
growing plants.

>If so, what would be an acceptable level and how is it reachable
>(preferably without having to buy a $$$ diffuser...)?

About 10-20 ppm of CO2 is good.  I don't know of any cheap (less than
$100) way.  The FAQ on plants has information on CO2 injection.

-Shaji.



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Shaji Bhaskar     BNR, Research Triangle Park, NC 27709     (bhaskar@bnr.ca) 
Re: CO2 levelsDIR
#266
Author: mdkj
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:34
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In article <1992Nov23.020951.27843@brtph560.bnr.ca>,
bhaskar@brtph598.bnr.ca (Shaji Bhaskar) writes: 

> The difference in stalk length of the sword plant could be because the
> plant you bought had been grown in crowded conditions, forcing the
> leaves to grow longer to reach the light.  Still, 8" is rather small
> for an E. bleheri leaf.  I have noticed that some species of crypts
> (C. nevilii for one) tends to have smaller leaves in my tank.  I think
> this was probably because the plants I bought had been grown emersed.
> However, Hygro species usually have larger (and sometimes dramatically
> different) leaves under water than above, so you should not be seeing
> a reduction in their leaf size.  What species of Hygrophila do you have?

I have Hygrophila polysperma, and their leaves are about 1 inch long :-(

> I don't know of any cheap [CO2 diffusion] (less than
> $100) way.  The FAQ on plants has information on CO2 injection.

You mean, there is a way to diffuse CO2 for not much more than $100?  I would
be interested in finding out more about that, if anyone has information about
this (I'm a new Net user, and although I have heard a lot about the FAQ, I have
no idea what it is or how to access it... a quick referral on this topic would
also be appreciated).  Thanks in advance on both counts.

John Opsomer
opsomer@orie.cornell.edu
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