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Started by Tom Demma x7-4308
Tue, 05 Jan 1993 16:48
Need Help with Marine Infection...
Author: Tom Demma x7-4308
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 16:48
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 16:48
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I'm hoping that someone can give me some advice on treating what appears to be a bacterial infection with my marine fish. Since this site has decided that some Usenet hierarchies promote an unprofessional work environment, I'll cross-post to rec.aquaria and alt.aquaria to increase my chances of getting a response. Please post replies to alt.aquaria, or E-mail me at the address in the .signature. First, let me describe the tank environment and conditions. It's a 55- gallon tank, utilizing a UGF driven by two Penguin 550 powerheads for biological filtration, and a Skilter 250 filter/protein skimmer combi- nation for mechanical filtration. I know, I know, UGF's aren't the greatest thing. I went that way because I wasn't that experienced or knowledgable at the time I purchased the setup. I'm testing with the "Dr. Wellfish" Dry-Tab testers; ammonia is essentially non-existant, and the nitrites are less than 25 ppm (I'm coming into a water-change, by the way). A 5% water change is done on a weekly basis in order to clean the substrate of any possibly excessive debris. The tank temper- ature is normally at 78-80 degress Fahrenheit. The occupants of the tank are three Yellow Tangs, an Achilles Tang, a Long-Nose Butterfly fish, and a Mandarin. About a week ago, I noticed that two of the Yellow Tangs developed red-colored streaking about the dorsal and caudal fins, which developed into red blotches on the body with loss of the bright yellow color that they normally have. They're still yellow, just not as bright as the one that appears unaffected. When I noticed this condition, I checked a couple of references and con- cluded that I was dealing with a bacterial infection. I decided to pro- ceed to treat the affected fish within the 55-gallon rather than a quarentine since a) it was probably running throughout the tank as well, and b) putting two Tangs by themselves didn't strike me as a particu- larly good idea since they can get pretty aggressive with just two. The last time I used Mardel's Marycyn and Marycyn-Two I ended up with a couple of dead fish - and then I read other posts describing prob- lems with these products. I decided to try another form of medication, instead. I've used Fritz Complex-Plus Nitrofurazone for a week so far. The dosage has been one capful per ten gallons of water every two days. Two days after the third dose (total of six days of treatment), I re- placed the carbon in the filter and performed a water change. After that, I added some Biozyme (?) to repopulate the bacteria in the substrate, since Fritz notes that the medication can damage the bacteria in the biological filter. At that point, the redness had subsided to a faint orange on the Tangs. I had planned to continue treatment after a day of rest to make sure there wasn't damage to the fish or the tank. After about ten hours, the redness had increased in intensity on the affected Tangs, so I removed the carbon element and redosed. The red- ness had subsided by this morning, but I noticed a faint white patch on the Achilles Tang. Yet the other fish aren't affected at all. The fish aren't losing weight or they're appetites. They're still feed- ing, and they're nibbling on the vegetable block in the tank so I know that they're getting their greens. I've turned up the temperature to 82 degrees to attempt to shorten the life-cycle of the bacteria, if that's what it is. Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions, or even comments on whether I'm taking the right approach? I'd like to get advice on the treatment, since it seems that every fish store has a different treatment or method to apply. Thanks in advance for your help. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tom Demma, Ultrasound Software Engineering demma@sol.med.ge.com GE Medical Systems Milwaukee, WI ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Re: Need Help with Marine Infection...
Author: Walter Hunt
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 23:48
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 23:48
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In article <1993Jan5.164841.17704@mr.med.ge.com>, demma@south (Tom Demma x7-4308) writes: [munch, munch] |> The occupants of the tank are three Yellow Tangs, an Achilles Tang, a |> Long-Nose Butterfly fish, and a Mandarin. About a week ago, I noticed |> that two of the Yellow Tangs developed red-colored streaking about the |> dorsal and caudal fins, which developed into red blotches on the body |> with loss of the bright yellow color that they normally have. They're |> still yellow, just not as bright as the one that appears unaffected. |> |> When I noticed this condition, I checked a couple of references and con- |> cluded that I was dealing with a bacterial infection. What exactly made you conclude this? I had my Tang develop red streaking/blushing around the fins and extremeties this summer. My guess at the time was that the water temperature was to blame, since the summer heat had been pushing it up that week. As soon as the water temp. went down a bit, the red started to disappear. I didn't add any medication or change anything (except I suspect I did a water change of 10% or so, that being my standard response). |> |> |> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |> Tom Demma, Ultrasound Software Engineering demma@sol.med.ge.com |> GE Medical Systems |> Milwaukee, WI |> |> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Walter Hunt walter@optimla.optimage.com OptImage Interactive Services Company, L.P. walter@optimla.aimla.com 11040 Santa Monica Blvd., Suite #300 netcom!optimla!walter Los Angeles, Ca. 90025 (310) 445-5718
Re: Need Help with Marine Infection...
Author: Dennis Chamberlin
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 18:36
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 18:36
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In article <1993Jan5.164841.17704@mr.med.ge.com> demma@south (Tom Demma x7-4308) writes: >I'm hoping that someone can give me some advice on treating what appears to >be a bacterial infection with my marine fish. Since this site has decided > two of the Yellow Tangs developed red-colored streaking about the >dorsal and caudal fins, which developed into red blotches on the body >with loss of the bright yellow color that they normally have. They're >still yellow, just not as bright as the one that appears unaffected. > My yellow tangs gradually developed a faint diffuse "blush" in some areas, red or rust-colored. The brilliant lemon yellow faded slightly, and became variable. No diagnosis. This condition, whatever it was, did not seem to concern the fish much, only my perception of it. It persisted for months, but the fish continued to act normally and eat live, flake, and lettuce leaf foods. Ultimately, I lost the fish in a serious tank casualty, but I'm sure it was unrelated. Have seen this in 3 or 4 different yellow tangs. I don't believe I ever attempted to medicate it. >------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Re: Need Help with Marine Infection...
Author: Igor Livshits
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 22:48
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 22:48
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In article <8183@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM> Dennis Chamberlin, drchambe@tekig5.pen.tek.com writes: > My yellow tangs gradually developed a faint diffuse "blush" in some areas, red > or rust-colored. The brilliant lemon yellow faded slightly, and became > variable. No diagnosis. This sounds like lateral line disease. What were the areas affected on the tangs? Igor _____ NCSA-UIUC, e:igorl@uiuc.edu, p:(217) 244-5606
Re: Need Help with Marine Infection...
Author: Dennis Chamberlin
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:27
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:27
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In article <C0K4pF.15G@news.cso.uiuc.edu> igorl@uiuc.edu (Igor Livshits) writes: > >This sounds like lateral line disease. What were the areas affected on >the tangs? > Diffuse on both sides, not symmetrical, not particularly concentrated at the lateral line. Some on caudal area. Looked like someone had smeared makeup on it. No noticeable change in behavior or eating habits.
Re: Need Help with Marine Infection...
Author: Jason Rosenberg
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:44
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:44
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drchambe@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Dennis Chamberlin) writes:
>In article <C0K4pF.15G@news.cso.uiuc.edu> igorl@uiuc.edu (Igor Livshits) writes:
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>>This sounds like lateral line disease. What were the areas affected on
>>the tangs?
>>
>Diffuse on both sides, not symmetrical, not particularly concentrated at the
>lateral line. Some on caudal area. Looked like someone had smeared makeup on
>it. No noticeable change in behavior or eating habits.
Still, it does sound similar to symptoms for HLLE (Head and Lateral Line
Erosion). You might want to try adding a grounding probe to your tank.
Jason
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Jason Rosenberg Computer Science Department
jason@cs.ucla.edu University of California
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