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Article #875Re: genetic facts [was: Ashby, botanical facts
From: Yuri Kuchinsky
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:00
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:00
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p-ashby@nimr.MAPS.mrc.ac.uk (Peter Ashby) wrote on Fri, 23 Oct 1998
17:28:34 +0000:
> In article <70q7bu$iig$1@whisper.globalserve.net>, yuku@globalserve.net
> (Yuri Kuchinsky) wrote:
> > But more importantly, I have no problem with Hagelberg's methodology and
> > conclusions. I'm certainly _not_ contesting them. All I'm saying is that
> > his conclusions were widely misinterpreted as opposing Heyerdahl. In fact,
> > logically, THEY DO NOT oppose Heyerdahl.
>
> You are using some very strange logic then Yuri. For someone who claims
> undergratduate philosophy your logic is very suspect. Logic is one of the
> first things taught in an undergrad philosophy course.
Get yourself a clue, Peter. Can you explain what you're babbling about
now?
> > Agreed. I also have latest mtDNA research by Dr. Cann that provides
> > support for Heyerdahl.
>
> Yuri, do you think that no one else read Ross and Bernard's recent
> posts?
I don't care what they read, as long as they also think for themselves.
> Or are you simply going to sail happily on spouting halftruths?
You're clued out. Or intentionally dishonest?
> The quotes from Cann & Lum quite clearly show that 1. you have at best
> misrepresented them
False.
> and 2. They provide no support for Heyerdahl at all.
You're lying.
> The closest they come is to call for more open mindedness, that is not
> a call to embrace Heyerdahl.
You don't have a clue.
Here's a very interesting old post from another one of my usual opponents
who is at least an honest scholar, unlike you.
Enjoy...
_____________________
Re: Sweet Potatos and Silver Bullets
Author: Peter van Rossum
Email: pmv100@psu.edu
Date: 1996/10/01
Forums: sci.archaeology.mesoamerican, sci.archaeology
...
>Whether South American Natives (or North American) first sailed to
>the Pacific, or vice versa, probably after contact both would have
>joined in the voyages. The gene flow was probably not that great, but
>the work of Rebecca Cann and other geneticists does, in my opinion, show
>that some gene flow occurred.
>
>Paul Kekai Manansala
While genetic studies are a promising area for sorting out the history
of human evolution and migration I think you are being a bit overly
optimistic that the "true" answer has been found. While Cann has
hypothesized that her genetic analyses are more consistent with a direct
Polynesia/South American contact hypothesis, this is not a firm conclusion
yet.
...
Peter van Rossum
PMV100@PSU.EDU
Cann, R.L. & J.K. Lum
1996 "Mitochondrial Myopia: Reply to Bonatto et al." American Journal
of Human Genetics vol 59, no. 1.
[end quote]
It is clear to Peter van Rossum, who is certainly no fan of Heyerdahl,
that Cann and other's work provides support for Heyerdahl. It provides
some good support, although perhaps no final proof as yet, of Heyerdahl's
theories.
Dishonest hacks like Ashby cannot change these simple facts.
Regards,
Yuri.
Yuri Kuchinsky -O- http://www.globalserve.net/~yuku -O- Toronto
You never need think you can turn over any old falsehoods without a
terrible squirming of the horrid little population that dwells under
it -=O=- Oliver Wendell Holmes
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