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Article #877Re: genetic facts [was: Ashby, botanical facts
From: Brian M. Scott
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 00:00
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 00:00
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On 23 Oct 1998 18:00:50 GMT, yuku@globalserve.net (Yuri Kuchinsky) wrote: It's most amusing to look only at Yuri's responses to Peter Ashby: [...] >Get yourself a clue, Peter. Can you explain what you're babbling about >now? [...] >I don't care what they read, as long as they also think for themselves. [...] >You're clued out. Or intentionally dishonest? [...] >False. [...] >You're lying. [...] >You don't have a clue. >Here's a very interesting old post from another one of my usual opponents >who is at least an honest scholar, unlike you. DejaNews is *so* much fun. On 26 August - not two months ago! - Yuri posted in the thread 'Re: historiography and politics' in response to Peter van Rossum. It's a long post, so I won't quote the whole thing, but two short passages are amusing: Peter: > but based on what I've seen from you in various ngs. the term > diffusionist as it is used above fits you very well. Yuri: And you're still a liar. - - - Peter: > As Greg already pointed out, he said it in 1989. Yuri: Liar. <end excerpts> >Enjoy... >_____________________ Peter van Rossum, responding to Paul Kekai Manansala: >While genetic studies are a promising area for sorting out the history >of human evolution and migration I think you are being a bit overly >optimistic that the "true" answer has been found. While Cann has >hypothesized that her genetic analyses are more consistent with a direct >Polynesia/South American contact hypothesis, this is not a firm conclusion >yet. >Cann, R.L. & J.K. Lum > 1996 "Mitochondrial Myopia: Reply to Bonatto et al." American Journal > of Human Genetics vol 59, no. 1. And Yuri, reading a text that only he can see, comments: >It is clear to Peter van Rossum, who is certainly no fan of Heyerdahl, >that Cann and other's work provides support for Heyerdahl. Perhaps, but that isn't at all what he said: 'Cann has hypothesized that ...' is far from 'Cann's work clearly provides support for ...'. > It provides >some good support, although perhaps no final proof as yet, of Heyerdahl's >theories. > >Dishonest hacks like Ashby cannot change these simple facts. A dishonest hack would write: >It is clear to Peter van Rossum, who is certainly no fan of Heyerdahl, >that Cann and other's work provides support for Heyerdahl. An honest scientist would write: 'It is clear that Cann views her analyses as supporting a direct Polynesia/SA contact hypothesis'. Brian M. Scott
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f66d0,df6f216fbb8c3d89 X-Google-Attributes: gidf66d0,public X-Google-Thread: fcea6,4a599aa9a3239f6e X-Google-Attributes: gidfcea6,public X-Google-Thread: 10065c,4a599aa9a3239f6e X-Google-Attributes: gid10065c,public X-Google-Thread: 1129f3,716126af31e790df X-Google-Attributes: gid1129f3,public X-Google-Thread: 1119a6,4a599aa9a3239f6e X-Google-Attributes: gid1119a6,public From: scott@math.csuohio.edu (Brian M. Scott) Subject: Re: genetic facts [was: Ashby, botanical facts Date: 1998/10/24 Message-ID: <363119df.4775821@news.csuohio.edu> X-Deja-AN: 404469346 References: <p-ashby-2310981728340001@mac120.nimr.mrc.ac.uk> <70qg8i$nsa$1@whisper.globalserve.net> Organization: Cleveland State University Newsgroups: sci.archaeology,bionet.general,sci.misc,sci.bio.misc,sci.anthropology