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Re: Now I Understand

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From: Lookout
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:52
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:56:00 -0500, "Corey Gordan"
<nonexistant@spoof.invalid> wrote:

>Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:lmfvk4h77jqslq0i1r3ofrkuftafr77alo@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:33:22 -0600, "Shenan Stanley"
>> <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Bluuuue Rajah wrote:
>>>> Everybody rightly criticizes Micro$tiff for selling a crappy OS, and
>>>> Linux is obviuosly better, if you have the time and the expertise
>>>> to use in it, but until this week I didn't understand exaclty why
>>>> Windows is such a POS.
>>>>
>>>> When I had to uninstall the Google toolbar because Google installed
>>>> an update tht I didn't ask for, which overrode IE5's ctrl-f
>>>> command, the reason beame clear.  Windows' install/uninstall method
>>>> causes bugs to accumulate, if programs are not ununstalled in
>>>> precise the reverse order of which they were installed.
>>>>
>>>> The problem is that terrible method of saving old copies of system
>>>> files, like .ini files, as backups, to be restored when software is
>>>> uninstalled.  So the more apps you uninstall, out of order, the
>>>> buggier your system becomes, until you finally have to reinstall
>>>> the OS.
>>>>
>>>> Linux apparently doesn't have anything resembling this problem,
>>>> which makes me wonder, how did the Linux designers (Torvald?)
>>>> handle this problem, and can we learn anything from their solution
>>>> to help minimize the problem with Windows?
>>>>
>>>> Your thoughts?
>>>
>>> philo wrote:
>>>> I've been using Linux almost as long as I've been using Windows.
>>>>
>>>> Linux is not immune from it's own problems...
>>>> and unless one is very familiar with Linux...the problems can
>>>> sometimes be harder to sort out.
>>>>
>>>> That said, with a little bit of common sense, Windows should not
>>>> require a re-install.
>>>> I run mainly Win2k and XP and they have both been running 99% +
>>>> trouble free for *many* years.
>>>
>>> Bluuuue Rajah wrote:
>>>> You're living in a fantasy world.  Everybody knows that Windows
>>>> slowly accumulates bugs.  They've known almost from day one, when
>>>> people started griping about what a POS it was.
>>>
>>> jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>> Every OS accumulates bugs.  That's reality, son.
>>>>
>>>> /BHA
>>>
>>> Lookout wrote:
>>>> Not if your regularly use a registry cleaner. I use FixIt Utilities
>>>> and to delete invalid or no longer need registry entries and files.
>>>
>>> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>>>> That's a very dangerous and poor thing to do, in my view.
>>>>
>>>> Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
>>>> registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
>>>> don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
>>>> what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
>>>> having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.
>>>>
>>>> The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner
>>>> erroneously removing an entry you need is far greater than any
>>>> potential benefit it may have.
>>>>
>>>> Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html
>>>
>>> Lookout wrote:
>>>> I'm sure it's something you're not capable of working with. In my
>>>> view it's a great way to keep your system humming.
>>>
>>> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>>>> You are certainly entitled to that view, if that's what you believe.
>>>> But as far as I'm concerned, you're dead wrong.
>>>
>>> N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc) wrote:
>>>> Dear Ken Blake, MVP:
>>>>
>>>> So how do *you* get rid of Norton Anti-virus?  RegClean.exe didn'
>>>> touch it...
>>>>
>>>> David A. Smith
>>>
>>> Lookout wrote:
>>>> First..I wouldn't install it.
>>>> 2nd...just cleaning your registry won't uninstall a program. If
>>>> that's what you're trying to do then you really shouldn't be
>>>> installing programs to begin with...you're way out of your league.
>>>> 3rd...I don't use RegClean. As I said I use FixIt Utilities and I
>>>> explained the process I use.
>>>> 4th..I'd type "How do I uninstall Norton AntiVirus" in Google and
>>>> I'd find
>>>> http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS291&q=how+do+i+uninstall+norton+antivirus&aq=1&oq=how+do+I+uninstall+nort
>>>>
>>>> As I said you're way out of your league. You should learn to ask
>>>> politely and you'll get more help.
>>>
>>> Courtney Josten wrote:
>>>> Do you recommend jv16 because I've nearly always had to reinsatll
>>>> after deleting keys in the registry.
>>>>
>>>> I particularly like the advanced option which cleans up everything,
>>>> it takes longer, but it's more effective.
>>>
>>> Lookout wrote:
>>>> I have no idea what jv16 is.
>>>
>>> Actually - that is surprising in many ways.
>>
>> Surprising that I don't know about a program I have no use for? That's
>> a pretty stupid statement.
>
>
>Not really actually - You see, when someone professes to know something 
>particular about a specific matter, issue or methodology their opinions are 
>often only credited when they are able to demonstrate good reasonable debate 
>about all the bread and butter techniques, utilities or programs enabling 
>them to be best positioned to air that considered notional idea you would 
>have other believe is a well established and credible opinion... clearly it 
>is not.

I should know every program out here? That's a pretty stupid statement
even for you.

>In one fell swoop the man hath discredited you.
>
>You appear blindsided.

Nah..you're an idiot.
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From: Lookout <mrLookout@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: Now I Understand
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:52:50 -0600
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