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Re: Now I Understand

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From: Barney Falkner
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:49
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> Bluuuue Rajah wrote:
>> Everybody rightly criticizes Micro$tiff for selling a crappy OS, and
>> Linux is obviuosly better, if you have the time and the expertise
>> to use in it, but until this week I didn't understand exaclty why
>> Windows is such a POS.
>>
>> When I had to uninstall the Google toolbar because Google installed
>> an update tht I didn't ask for, which overrode IE5's ctrl-f
>> command, the reason beame clear.  Windows' install/uninstall method
>> causes bugs to accumulate, if programs are not ununstalled in
>> precise the reverse order of which they were installed.
>>
>> The problem is that terrible method of saving old copies of system
>> files, like .ini files, as backups, to be restored when software is
>> uninstalled.  So the more apps you uninstall, out of order, the
>> buggier your system becomes, until you finally have to reinstall
>> the OS.
>>
>> Linux apparently doesn't have anything resembling this problem,
>> which makes me wonder, how did the Linux designers (Torvald?)
>> handle this problem, and can we learn anything from their solution
>> to help minimize the problem with Windows?
>>
>> Your thoughts?
>
> philo wrote:
>> I've been using Linux almost as long as I've been using Windows.
>>
>> Linux is not immune from it's own problems...
>> and unless one is very familiar with Linux...the problems can
>> sometimes be harder to sort out.
>>
>> That said, with a little bit of common sense, Windows should not
>> require a re-install.
>> I run mainly Win2k and XP and they have both been running 99% +
>> trouble free for *many* years.
>
> Bluuuue Rajah wrote:
>> You're living in a fantasy world.  Everybody knows that Windows
>> slowly accumulates bugs.  They've known almost from day one, when
>> people started griping about what a POS it was.
>
> jmfbahciv wrote:
>> Every OS accumulates bugs.  That's reality, son.
>>
>> /BHA
>
> Lookout wrote:
>> Not if your regularly use a registry cleaner. I use FixIt Utilities
>> and to delete invalid or no longer need registry entries and files.
>
> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>> That's a very dangerous and poor thing to do, in my view.
>>
>> Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
>> registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
>> don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
>> what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
>> having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.
>>
>> The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner
>> erroneously removing an entry you need is far greater than any
>> potential benefit it may have.
>>
>> Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html
>
> Lookout wrote:
>> I'm sure it's something you're not capable of working with. In my
>> view it's a great way to keep your system humming.
>
> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>> You are certainly entitled to that view, if that's what you believe.
>> But as far as I'm concerned, you're dead wrong.
>
> N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc) wrote:
>> Dear Ken Blake, MVP:
>>
>> So how do *you* get rid of Norton Anti-virus?  RegClean.exe didn'
>> touch it...
>>
>> David A. Smith
>
> Lookout wrote:
>> First..I wouldn't install it.
>> 2nd...just cleaning your registry won't uninstall a program. If
>> that's what you're trying to do then you really shouldn't be
>> installing programs to begin with...you're way out of your league.
>> 3rd...I don't use RegClean. As I said I use FixIt Utilities and I
>> explained the process I use.
>> 4th..I'd type "How do I uninstall Norton AntiVirus" in Google and
>> I'd find
>> http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS291&q=how+do+i+uninstall+norton+antivirus&aq=1&oq=how+do+I+uninstall+nort
>>
>> As I said you're way out of your league. You should learn to ask
>> politely and you'll get more help.
>
> Courtney Josten wrote:
>> Do you recommend jv16 because I've nearly always had to reinsatll
>> after deleting keys in the registry.
>>
>> I particularly like the advanced option which cleans up everything,
>> it takes longer, but it's more effective.
>
> Lookout wrote:
>> I have no idea what jv16 is.
>
> Actually - that is surprising in many ways.
>
> It is a fairly well established windows optimization and tuneup tool.
> It used to be a free 'registry cleaner' plus.  It's been around and
> recommended by many for quite a while.

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Subject: Re: Now I Understand
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