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Madhudvisah dasa Swami (shelter@peg.apc.org) wrote:

: You ignore the evidence that God exists but there is VERY strong evidence.
: God has many definitions but one is the cause of all causes. So for
: science this is a problem. Science has to state that everything has a
: cause. But, even in science, you have to come to the point of accepting
: something without a cause. (You don't do it of course - but logically you
: have to). You say the universe was "caused" by a "big bang". OK. What
: caused the big bang? You may come up with something, "It was a chunk just
: floating in space then it exploded..." OK. Where did the chunk come from
: and what caused the explosion? So if you keep on going in this way you
: MUST come to the point of a cause that has no other cause. That is God.
: Complete scientific proof. [there are millions of proofs that God
: exists... but you have to open your eyes]

Let me just ask you a question.  Is your God the Christian god?
It definitely does not sound like a Christian god to me because   
some of my Christian friends rediculed at your statement.
I wonder what the bible fanatics would say about your statments.
Would you acceept a model of million universes and spirits without God?
If your god is not Christian, why do you capitalize it?  Generally God is
considered Christian(or Catholics if you like).

: Yes everybody has their world-view. So some think one group is their enemy
: and another group are their friends.  So they want to destroy their
: enemies and socialize with their friends... But devotees of Krishna don't
: see friends and enemies - we see everyone as servants of Krishna and try
: to help everyone come closer to God. That is the best welfare work.

What happens when you come really close to God?  Eternal life in heaven?
I'm very much an atheist but if I have to choose I would rather accept the
concept of karma over a omnipotent being exists in a form of human as one
mystery of universe. (Remember that God created us based upon his own 
                      appearence?)
BTW, one does not need to be Christian to achieve spiritual harmony.  I said
this because you seem more concern about spiritual truth than science. 

Cheers,
-JL