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sterner@sel.hep.upenn.edu (Kevin Sterner) wrote:

>In article <singtech-2306950242460001@ip-salem2-26.teleport.com>, singtech@teleport.com (C. Cagle) writes:

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>I think you'd better read the original post again.  There is nothing
>in the Swami's post to indicate anything but his belief that lunar
>vulcanism is the source of meteors, and his belief that this is the
>accepted explanation.

It's not my belief at all! It was once held by the scientists [or so I
have been told anyhow] :-)

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>No, as a matter of fact I do not.  The main problem with welfare statism 
>is not the expense, or the burden it places on the resources of the
>productive members of society, or the fact that it returns nothing to
>the economy.  It is that it destroys the fabric of society by creating
>a permanent underclass that is for the most part incapable of breaking 
>the cycle of poverty.

And why is that? Because science has produced so much wonderful advanced
technology and abolished the jobs they used to do... If the society
provided jobs they could do these people [who are now unemployed] would
work and be fine upstanding citizens... They would be paying tax, they
would be consuming... they wouldn't be a burden at all. But how can they
be productive? Your machines are doing all the work! It is a great
paradox... you are making "advancements" but your "advancements" are
putting people out of work. You then have to pay them social security
[which comes out of your own pockets] As you "advance" more and more so
many more become unemployed as a result... Thus science destroys the
society...

Of course this is a great credit to the intelligence of the scientists but
has anyone given a thought to the direction we are going... the
consequences of such a policy... Everything automatic, everything
computerized and everyone unemployed!!!


>  Combine that with democracy, and you have the
>perfect totalitarian state: the people voluntarily vote themselves into
>poverty and oppression.  (This hardly describes the Princeton Plasma 
>Physics Lab!)

You [the scientists (BTW I was a computer systems analyst before so I did
a fair share of it myself too)] are forcing them into poverty and
oppression by taking away their jobs. Not many people want to be
unemployed. Mostly they are ready to work at something, but many people
are not super-intelligent, they are suited to manual laboring, farm work,
etc... But where are the jobs for them now... You have the tractors and
the computers doing it... It may be very economical but it's destroying
the society...


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Thank you. Hare Krishna!

Madhudvisah dasa Swami
(shelter@peg.apc.org)      http://www.peg.apc.org/~shelter/ctfote
                                
Quotes from His Divine Grace A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada 
(c)Bhaktivedanta Book Trust