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Article #4391The Flat Earth? - Conclusion
From: Madhudvisah dasa Swami
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 00:00
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 00:00
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The "flat earth" idea came from a posting related to the book "Telling
Lies for God" where some atheist was spouting his view that the Bible was
invalid as it described the Earth as flat...
So I thought it would be a nice exercise to investigate intellectually if
one could actually come up with a consistent world-view based on a
flat-earth...
I was surprised that not many scientists were prepared to "enter into the
spirit" of the exercise. I was amazed at the foul email sent by some of
the sci-astro crowd... They are very attached to their spherical rotating
earth! But the point of the exercise was to demonstrate it's more a matter
of perception than anything else. The world may be flat (although I
haven't got all the bugs out of the theory yet!). It certainly may be
stationary. There is no way we could tell. The universe might well be
rotating around a stationary earth... No one can argue this point. (Of
course they will argue but they can't put a good case...:-)
Actually it's all about the theory you accept... I have heard a story that
many years ago some farmers came into town to report some extraordinary
events that had occurred on their farms. They reported there were rocks
falling from the sky! So the scientists naturally thought the poor fellows
were crazy... How could rocks fall from the sky. It was only when they had
a valid scientific theory [these rocks were, of course, the result of
volcanic erruptions on the moon!] that they could accept the farmers
stories... Of course we now call rocks falling from the sky meteorites and
there is no problem.
So our "scientific" view of the world and the world itself are two
completely different things. Currently we see science struggling to fit
the universe inside their "big bang" cosmology. But it just won't fit! The
observed evidence disproves the theory in so many ways. I don't have to
present this evidence as scientists who are much more qualified than me
have already done it so nicely. You can refer to Eric Lerner's "The Big
Bang Never Happened" and many other books. He defeats the big bang
cosmology and goes on try and establish another cosmology - the "plasma"
universe. His refutation of the big bang is excellent but his replacement
for it is not very satisfying...
The strongest "evidence" for the big bang is the observed red-shift of the
stars. They say this proves the universe is expanding, which is what you
would expect if it all started with a "big bang". But the same "evidence"
can be interpreted in many ways. The red-shift evidence also seems to
prove the earth is at the center of the universe... Not something we here
very much of from the "big bang" cosmologists is it?
So despite the fact their theory can't explain the the observed universe
they still are still "preaching" it... It's incredible. It's not science
at all. It's blind faith in a dogma which has been clearly and
scientifically disproven by scientists who have broken away from this
blind faith in the "big bang".
So why are so many "intelligent" men maintaining "blind faith" in a dogma
that clearly does not explain the observed universe? It's because there is
no clear alternative other than the traditional one that God created the
universe. This "theory" can be stated in modern scientific terms using
Mandelbrot's fractal theory and common sense. It is reasonable to assume
things happen on different scales in a similar way. We see a small
universe [a child] created from life [the father and mother], similarly it
is reasonable to assume that the universe [a big body] was created from
life. [God] This is a complete scientific "theory" and completely explains
the observed universe. Some people may choose not to accept it as their
world-view, that is one thing, but no one can claim it is invalid. However
the "big bang" cosmology has been scientifically proved to be clearly
wrong.
Now we only have one valid theory for the creation, that God created the
world. So it is my humble request that religious people take strength from
this and resist the attempts by science to destroy the world's faith in
God with their baseless and illogical theories.
Thank you. Hare Krishna!
Madhudvisah dasa Swami
(shelter@peg.apc.org) http://www.peg.apc.org/~shelter/ctfote
Quotes from His Divine Grace A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
(c)Bhaktivedanta Book Trust
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