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Re: Science Struggle

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From: Alan McGowen
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 00:00
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charliew wrote:

>      But Alan, I don't live at relativistic velocities.  My everyday experience is in the
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>      realm of classical physics, where simultaneity does not apply.  This also applies to you,
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>      and everyone else on this planet.  That is my original point - this "common" view of
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>      reality is somewhat subjective, even if most of us are not aware that it is.
>

You have shifted your argument. Orginally, you were claiming that
reality is "subjective". Now you are saying that  something  called "the
common view" of reality is somewhat subjective.

I have no disagreement with that. But it's the business of science to
identify the biases in "the common
view" and correct for them, exactly as Einstein did in special
relativity. That is how we come to understand more of the objective
order of reality.

--
Alan McGowen




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<p><br>You have shifted your argument. Orginally, you were claiming that
reality is "subjective". Now you are saying that&nbsp; something&nbsp;
called "the common view" of reality is somewhat subjective.
<p>I have no disagreement with that. But it's the business of science to
identify the biases in "the common
<br>view" and correct for them, exactly as Einstein did in special relativity.
That is how we come to understand more of the objective order of reality.
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From: Alan McGowen <amcgowen@cup.hp.com>
Subject: Re: Science Struggle
Date: 1999/09/22
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