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Article #205Re: Science Struggle
From: Starbuck
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 00:00
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 00:00
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>>>1. All religion formerly made scientific claims, because it was an attempt to understand and control the world, and some forms of religion still do. Some present religious writers claim to make no scientific claims, but perhaps they do when they write about the mind.<<< "Science" is not an attempt to control the world. That would be technology. Science is a process whereby the physical world can be understood. This done through direct observation and measurement. Religion attempts to answer questions of value, purpose and meaning. Questions which good science assiduouly avoids for very good reason. Science cannot answer such questions. >>>2. It has turned out that the universe has no purpose that anyone has been able to make a convincing case for. It is not a person that cares what we do or think.<<< Many persons are convinced that their life (and the world around them) is meaningful. Whether you or anyone else fails to be convinced is another question entirely. >>>3. Human purposefulness and morality has and must have human sources.<<< Human sources can provide purpose and morality. I question whether one can logically assert that it MUST have human sources until one has examined and exhausted all other potential sources. I sincerely doubt that anyone has even attempted such a heroic endeavor, let alone accomplished it successfully. -- To respond via email remove the "X" from the address.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fd92c,7831a6255ad3ad65 X-Google-Attributes: gidfd92c,public X-Google-Thread: 10bcbe,7831a6255ad3ad65 X-Google-Attributes: gid10bcbe,public X-Google-Thread: fdefa,7831a6255ad3ad65 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdefa,public X-Google-Thread: 10607c,7831a6255ad3ad65 X-Google-Attributes: gid10607c,public From: "Starbuck" <pmdlandarch@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Science Struggle Date: 1999/09/20 Message-ID: <7s8gdp$2ti$1@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Deja-AN: 527904220 References: <7rrk1v$tr6$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <7rsg3h$2rss$1@news.hal-pc.org> <4246475F4AE6D211808D006097A1716402F68B2A@aricrmntnews.dpi.qld.gov.au> <37E2C3E4.D161074E@cup.hp.com> <x4hvh99qdff.fsf@Steam.Stanford.EDU> X-Posted-Path-Was: not-for-mail X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 X-ELN-Date: 21 Sep 1999 17:48:41 GMT X-ELN-Insert-Date: Tue Sep 21 10:55:10 1999 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Newsgroups: sci.bio.botany,bionet.biology.grasses,sci.environment,uk.environment