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Re: Science Struggle

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From: Alan McGowen
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 00:00
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Starbuck wrote:

>  >>>Citing the fact that "many persons are convinced" of these magical
> things is an important data
> point on human psychology, but not evidence of their reality. Many
> people are also convinced
> the government has extraterrestrials in pickle jars at Area 51  :-)
> <<< So you are claiming that you have extensively searched Area 51, in
> such detail that any pickle jar would not have been able to escape
> your detection? :-)

You don't seem to  understand the basic rules of evidence and burden of
proof.
It's not incumbent on me to prove the negative. It's incumbent on those
who assert
the ETs are there to produce the evidence.

E.g. suppose I said that the Vatican is a brothel, and it's up to you to
search the Vatican, every
last  corner of it, to prove there are no prostitutes hidden there. That
would never stand in a
court -- I would be the one making the claim,  it would be up to me to
provide evidence for
it.

--
Alan McGowen



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Starbuck wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;<font color="#000000"><font size=-1>>>>Citing
the fact that "many persons are convinced" of these magical things is an
important data</font></font>
<br><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>point on human psychology, but
not evidence of their reality. Many people are also convinced</font></font>
<br><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>the government has extraterrestrials
in pickle jars at Area 51&nbsp; :-) &lt;&lt;&lt;</font></font> <font size=-1>So
you are claiming that you have extensively searched Area 51, in such detail
that any pickle jar would not have been able to escape your detection?</font>
<font size=-1>:-)</font></blockquote>
You don't seem to&nbsp; understand the basic rules of evidence and burden
of proof.
<br>It's not incumbent on me to prove the negative. It's incumbent on those
who assert
<br>the ETs are there to produce the evidence.
<p>E.g. suppose I said that the Vatican is a brothel, and it's up to you
to search the Vatican, every
<br>last&nbsp; corner of it, to prove there are no prostitutes hidden there.
That would never stand in a
<br>court -- I would be the one making the claim,&nbsp; it would be up
to me to provide evidence for
<br>it.
<pre>--&nbsp;
Alan McGowen

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