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Alan McGowen wrote in message <37E7BD29.4827D612@cup.hp.com>...
    charliew said:
    If you don't believe me, merely go into the appropriate relativity =
text, and look up various descriptions of "simultaneity".  If you manage =
to understand the implications of what you read, I'll wager that you =
will not see reality as being so "objective" after all.
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    If you had understood what *you* had read, you would have realized =
that Einstein's analysis=20
    demonstrates that classical concepts of space and time are not =
independent of the motion=20
    of observers. For that very reason, Einstein replaces them with =
something that is=20
    observer-independent, Minkowski space-time. In other words, special =
relativity is *more*=20
    objective than classical physics.=20
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Alan McGowen


    But Alan, I don't live at relativistic velocities.  My everyday =
experience is in the
    realm of classical physics, where simultaneity does not apply.  This =
also applies to you,=20
    and everyone else on this planet.  That is my original point - this =
"common" view of
    reality is somewhat subjective, even if most of us are not aware =
that it is.

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    size=3D-1>If you don't believe me, merely go into the appropriate =
relativity=20
    text, and look up various descriptions of =
&quot;simultaneity&quot;.&nbsp; If=20
    you manage to understand the implications of what you read, I'll =
wager that=20
    you will not see reality as being so &quot;objective&quot; after =
all.</FONT>
    <P><BR>If you had understood what *you* had read, you would have =
realized=20
    that Einstein's analysis <BR>demonstrates that classical concepts of =
space=20
    and time are not independent of the motion <BR>of observers. For =
that very=20
    reason, Einstein replaces them with something that is=20
    <BR>observer-independent, Minkowski space-time. In other words, =
special=20
    relativity is *more* <BR>objective than classical physics. =
<PRE>-&nbsp;
Alan McGowen

</PRE><PRE>But Alan, I don't live at relativistic velocities.  My =
everyday experience is in the</PRE><PRE>realm of classical physics, =
where simultaneity does not apply.  This also applies to you, =
</PRE><PRE>and everyone else on this planet.  That is my original point =
- this &quot;common&quot; view of</PRE><PRE>reality is somewhat =
subjective, even if most of us are not aware that it is.
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