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Article #265Re: Update tree-sitter Ginkgo in Ashland, Oregon
From: Rose Martin
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 00:00
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 00:00
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Wouldn't it be considered even more rare if the tree isn't native to Oregon...? Rose "Rick Toomey" <toomey@museum.state.il.us> wrote in message news:3A26907D.DB1B6D93@museum.state.il.us... > Hello, > > CorK wrote: > > > Up till now the City of Ashland has not take any action to try to > > save the monumental 100 years old Ginkgo that is one of the few old > > and female Ginkgos in the USA and deserves our respect and protection. > > It is also a native tree looking at the fossil record in the western > > part of the US. > > NO, the fossil record does not support the idea that > Gingko biloba is a native tree to Oregon. > > Both Stewart and Rothwell (1993) and Tidwell (1998) note > that Gingko went extinct in North America during the > Miocene. The Miocene lasted from 23.8 million to > 5.3 million years ago. Neither author lists when > in the Miocene the extinction occurred. However, > since gingko occurs in the Mascall Formation > of Oregon, which dates 12-15 million years old > ( http://www.nps.gov/joda/home.htm ), > it appears that Late Miocene 11.2-5.3 million years > ago would be a good bet. The UCMP website > indicates that Gingkos disappeared from > North America around seven million years ago > http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/seedplants/ginkgoales/ginkgofr.html > > So, claiming that Ginkgo is a native to > the western U.S. is similar to a me deciding > that I should have a right to go to Ireland > and be considered a native, simply because I > had relatives there hundreds of years ago. > It fails any test of logic. > > Based on the other groups that were present > in western North America at the same time, > horses, rhinos, camels, and elephants > could be considered native to the area as well. > > Being extinct in an area for approximately seven > million years before being re-introduced through > cultivation means that a species is not a native. > > > > References > Stewart WN and Rothwell GW, 1993, Paleobotany > and the Evolution of Plants. Cambridge: > cambridge University Press. > > Tidwell WD, 1998, Common Fossil Plants of > Western North America. Washington, DC: > Smithsonian Institution Press. > > > Rick Toomey > Illinois State Museum > toomey@museum.state.il.us
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10a56c,256aa6b830d099cc X-Google-Attributes: gid10a56c,public X-Google-Thread: 10428a,256aa6b830d099cc X-Google-Attributes: gid10428a,public X-Google-Thread: feea0,256aa6b830d099cc X-Google-Attributes: gidfeea0,public X-Google-Thread: 10bcbe,256aa6b830d099cc X-Google-Attributes: gid10bcbe,public From: "Rose Martin" <roswitha@bconnex.net> Subject: Re: Update tree-sitter Ginkgo in Ashland, Oregon Date: 2000/12/03 Message-ID: <XvvW5.8730$7.295332@quark.idirect.com> X-Deja-AN: 700637640 References: <3a2639e9.2337707@news.xs4all.nl> <3a26848e.6281446@news.xs4all.nl> <3A26907D.DB1B6D93@museum.state.il.us> X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Complaints-To: abuse@look.ca X-Trace: quark.idirect.com 975864951 209.212.41.175 (Sun, 03 Dec 2000 12:35:51 EST) Organization: Internet Look Communications - http://www.look.ca X-MSMail-Priority: Normal NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 12:35:51 EST Newsgroups: sci.bio.botany,sci.bio.ecology,rec.gardens,bionet.plants.education