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Article #270Re: Update tree-sitter Ginkgo in Ashland, Oregon
From: Rick Toomey
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 00:00
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 00:00
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Hello, CorK wrote: > Up till now the City of Ashland has not take any action to try to > save the monumental 100 years old Ginkgo that is one of the few old > and female Ginkgos in the USA and deserves our respect and protection. > It is also a native tree looking at the fossil record in the western > part of the US. NO, the fossil record does not support the idea that Gingko biloba is a native tree to Oregon. Both Stewart and Rothwell (1993) and Tidwell (1998) note that Gingko went extinct in North America during the Miocene. The Miocene lasted from 23.8 million to 5.3 million years ago. Neither author lists when in the Miocene the extinction occurred. However, since gingko occurs in the Mascall Formation of Oregon, which dates 12-15 million years old ( http://www.nps.gov/joda/home.htm ), it appears that Late Miocene 11.2-5.3 million years ago would be a good bet. The UCMP website indicates that Gingkos disappeared from North America around seven million years ago http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/seedplants/ginkgoales/ginkgofr.html So, claiming that Ginkgo is a native to the western U.S. is similar to a me deciding that I should have a right to go to Ireland and be considered a native, simply because I had relatives there hundreds of years ago. It fails any test of logic. Based on the other groups that were present in western North America at the same time, horses, rhinos, camels, and elephants could be considered native to the area as well. Being extinct in an area for approximately seven million years before being re-introduced through cultivation means that a species is not a native. References Stewart WN and Rothwell GW, 1993, Paleobotany and the Evolution of Plants. Cambridge: cambridge University Press. Tidwell WD, 1998, Common Fossil Plants of Western North America. Washington, DC: Smithsonian Institution Press. Rick Toomey Illinois State Museum toomey@museum.state.il.us
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