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Um sorry, wrong E-Mail address on post. It's supposed to be--
bryanm@scescape.net

HILARY ADAMS wrote:

> Please forgive any errors, this is my first time posting in NG's, but I
> am in need of a bit of advise.
>
> I have been studying Coleoptera on my own for about a year and a half
> now and am wanting to pursue a career in the field. I find the study
> fascinating.
> I plan on going back to school soon but at 30 years old, and equipped
> only with a GED this is an intimidating proposition. I also work full
> time as a paramedic with shifts of 24 on 48 off, which makes things
> worse. Is there anything I can be doing to get more actively involved ?
> Are there jobs available to someone in my present position ? What are
> some good schools ?
> My interests seem to lean more toward forestry, but my mind is always
> open. I live in South Carolina but relocation is not out of the
> question.
>   Any help is appreciated.
>
>       Bryan

On Mon, 08 Jun 1998 20:19:09 GMT, HILARY ADAMS <hilary@scescape.net>
wrote:

>Um sorry, wrong E-Mail address on post. It's supposed to be--
>bryanm@scescape.net
>
>HILARY ADAMS wrote:
>
>> Please forgive any errors, this is my first time posting in NG's, but I
>> am in need of a bit of advise.
>>
>> I have been studying Coleoptera on my own for about a year and a half
>> now and am wanting to pursue a career in the field. I find the study
>> fascinating.
>> I plan on going back to school soon but at 30 years old, and equipped
>> only with a GED this is an intimidating proposition. I also work full
>> time as a paramedic with shifts of 24 on 48 off, which makes things
>> worse. Is there anything I can be doing to get more actively involved ?
>> Are there jobs available to someone in my present position ? What are
>> some good schools ?
>> My interests seem to lean more toward forestry, but my mind is always
>> open. I live in South Carolina but relocation is not out of the
>> question.
>>   Any help is appreciated.
>>
>>       Bryan
>
Hi Bryan,

Why don't you check into the Forest Service directly, via the federal
jobs program?  Or check into working at a local greenhouse or related
business.  You may find that you don't need a degree at all, and if
you do discover that a degree would be helpful, you'll know quite a
bit more about what you'll need to do.

Another place you could look would be the National Parks Program.

If you're looking for a career in plant science, I'd suggest getting a
well paying job and doing something with plants as a hobby.  There are
far too many plant science people looking for work.  Also, one of the
main employers, Pioneer Hy-Bred, just lost 8 greenhouses of research
in a fire.

Frank

Frank wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 08 Jun 1998 20:19:09 GMT, HILARY ADAMS <hilary@scescape.net>
> wrote:
> 
> >Um sorry, wrong E-Mail address on post. It's supposed to be--
> >bryanm@scescape.net
> >>
> >> I have been studying Coleoptera on my own for about a year and a half
> >> now and am wanting to pursue a career in the field. I find the study
> >> fascinating.
 
> If you're looking for a career in plant science, I'd suggest getting a
> well paying job and doing something with plants as a hobby.  There are
> far too many plant science people looking for work.  Also, one of the
> main employers, Pioneer Hy-Bred, just lost 8 greenhouses of research
> in a fire.

(Psst.  Frank.  Coleoptera aren't plants.)

Bill
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Frank wrote:
> 

> >
> >(Psst.  Frank.  Coleoptera aren't plants.)
> >
> >Bill
> >--
> 
> oops.
> 
> Frank


Hi Frank
	Coleoptera are beetles.  In all my years of head hunting,
no one has ever called to ask for a coleoptera expert.

	Regards,
	Marc Andelman

On Mon, 08 Jun 1998 20:31:49 -0700, "William R. Penrose"
<wpenrose@interaccess.com> wrote:

>Frank wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, 08 Jun 1998 20:19:09 GMT, HILARY ADAMS <hilary@scescape.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >Um sorry, wrong E-Mail address on post. It's supposed to be--
>> >bryanm@scescape.net
>> >>
>> >> I have been studying Coleoptera on my own for about a year and a half
>> >> now and am wanting to pursue a career in the field. I find the study
>> >> fascinating.
> 
>> If you're looking for a career in plant science, I'd suggest getting a
>> well paying job and doing something with plants as a hobby.  There are
>> far too many plant science people looking for work.  Also, one of the
>> main employers, Pioneer Hy-Bred, just lost 8 greenhouses of research
>> in a fire.
>
>(Psst.  Frank.  Coleoptera aren't plants.)
>
>Bill
>-- 

oops.

Frank

On Mon, 08 Jun 1998 22:55:51 -0400, Marc Andelman
<drgonfly@ultranet.com> wrote:

>Frank wrote:
>> 
>
>> >
>> >(Psst.  Frank.  Coleoptera aren't plants.)
>> >
>> >Bill
>> >--
>> 
>> oops.
>> 
>> Frank
>
>
>Hi Frank
>	Coleoptera are beetles.  In all my years of head hunting,
>no one has ever called to ask for a coleoptera expert.
>
>	Regards,
>	Marc Andelman

Ok, so you got to be right once.  Live it up....

Anyway, they live on Coleus plants, right, ;-)  or was that some kinda
green algae I was thinking about.  now where did I leave that old bug
book...

Anyway, there is a serious shortage of entomologists these days.  I
hardly have any entomologist resumes.  Unfortunately, the shortage of
jobs for entomologists is even more serious.

Frank

In article <3581b59d.99397875@news.halcyon.com>,
Frank <DrHeasley@Chemistry.com> wrote:
>
>Anyway, there is a serious shortage of entomologists these days.  I
>hardly have any entomologist resumes.  Unfortunately, the shortage of
>jobs for entomologists is even more serious.

Oh yeah? Tell me about it--I'm looking for a job--in fact, I tried to send
Frank my resume, but his mail bounced.

Adam
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On 9 Jun 1998 13:06:41 GMT, adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu (Adam Finkelstein)
wrote:

>In article <3581b59d.99397875@news.halcyon.com>,
>Frank <DrHeasley@Chemistry.com> wrote:
>>
>>Anyway, there is a serious shortage of entomologists these days.  I
>>hardly have any entomologist resumes.  Unfortunately, the shortage of
>>jobs for entomologists is even more serious.
>
>Oh yeah? Tell me about it--I'm looking for a job--in fact, I tried to send
>Frank my resume, but his mail bounced.
>
>Adam
>-- 
Hi Adam,

Sorry you had problems contacting me.  I've sent you an email message
requesting details about the mail bounce this morning.

Frank

In article <3581b59d.99397875@news.halcyon.com>, DrHeasley@Chemistry.com 
says...
>
>On Mon, 08 Jun 1998 22:55:51 -0400, Marc Andelman
><drgonfly@ultranet.com> wrote:
>
>>Frank wrote:
>>> 
>>
>>> >
>>> >(Psst.  Frank.  Coleoptera aren't plants.)
>>> >
>>> >Bill
>>> >--
>>> 
>>> oops.
>>> 
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>>Hi Frank
>>       Coleoptera are beetles.  In all my years of head hunting,
>>no one has ever called to ask for a coleoptera expert.
>>
>>       Regards,
>>       Marc Andelman
>
>Ok, so you got to be right once.  Live it up....
>
>Anyway, they live on Coleus plants, right, ;-)  or was that some kinda
>green algae I was thinking about.  now where did I leave that old bug
>book...
>
>Anyway, there is a serious shortage of entomologists these days.  I
>hardly have any entomologist resumes.  Unfortunately, the shortage of
>jobs for entomologists is even more serious.
>
>Frank

Dahd Speaking:

And the sad fact is that there are very very serious problems with
insect pests that need a great deal more attention and funding.

To name a few--

Fire ants throughout the South
Termites Control
Roach Control
Cattle Pests of Various sorts
Tick Control/ to control arthropod borne diseases like Lyme Disease
and several others.
Mosquitos-- public health issues here.  We haven't had a great
huge encephalitis epidemic in years, but it can happen.  Lots of
other diseases transmitted by these critters too.

The point here is that bucks have been going to very sexy research
areas in biotech and genetics. Great! But there is still lots of
of biological research that needs doing.

Underfunded areas-- Entomology, Botany, Invertebrate Zoology.
The latter holds the key to understanding everything about development/ 
cell growth regulation, 
and therefore ultimately control of malignant diseases.

Nearly dead areas of scholarship include paleontology,  comparative 
anatomy, developmental embryology
just to name  a few.

Well, resources are always limited, and we put our bucks in a targeted
fashion on what seems important to human interest-- and by targeting
our research we miss many opportunities for discovery through
basic researc/and luck  to solve the very problems we attemt to 
deal with through targeted research.

I have cross pollinated this dicussion to the beekeeping newsgroup. 
Currently, bees are being decimated by two new diseases, varroa
and tracheal mites.  What is the state of research funding in 
varroa resistance?  The economic stakes are huge. No pollination,
no eat.  The relevance to sci.research.careers is to point out
that research funding is concentrated in very few areas, both in
academia and in industry.

Regards,
Marc Andelman


dahd wrote:
> 
> In article <3581b59d.99397875@news.halcyon.com>, DrHeasley@Chemistry.com
> says...
> >
> >On Mon, 08 Jun 1998 22:55:51 -0400, Marc Andelman
> ><drgonfly@ultranet.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Frank wrote:
> >>>
> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >(Psst.  Frank.  Coleoptera aren't plants.)
> >>> >
> >>> >Bill
> >>> >--
> >>>
> >>> oops.
> >>>
> >>> Frank
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi Frank
> >>       Coleoptera are beetles.  In all my years of head hunting,
> >>no one has ever called to ask for a coleoptera expert.
> >>
> >>       Regards,
> >>       Marc Andelman
> >
> >Ok, so you got to be right once.  Live it up....
> >
> >Anyway, they live on Coleus plants, right, ;-)  or was that some kinda
> >green algae I was thinking about.  now where did I leave that old bug
> >book...
> >
> >Anyway, there is a serious shortage of entomologists these days.  I
> >hardly have any entomologist resumes.  Unfortunately, the shortage of
> >jobs for entomologists is even more serious.
> >
> >Frank
> 
> Dahd Speaking:
> 
> And the sad fact is that there are very very serious problems with
> insect pests that need a great deal more attention and funding.
> 
> To name a few--
> 
> Fire ants throughout the South
> Termites Control
> Roach Control
> Cattle Pests of Various sorts
> Tick Control/ to control arthropod borne diseases like Lyme Disease
> and several others.
> Mosquitos-- public health issues here.  We haven't had a great
> huge encephalitis epidemic in years, but it can happen.  Lots of
> other diseases transmitted by these critters too.
> 
> The point here is that bucks have been going to very sexy research
> areas in biotech and genetics. Great! But there is still lots of
> of biological research that needs doing.
> 
> Underfunded areas-- Entomology, Botany, Invertebrate Zoology.
> The latter holds the key to understanding everything about development/
> cell growth regulation,
> and therefore ultimately control of malignant diseases.
> 
> Nearly dead areas of scholarship include paleontology,  comparative
> anatomy, developmental embryology
> just to name  a few.
> 
> Well, resources are always limited, and we put our bucks in a targeted
> fashion on what seems important to human interest-- and by targeting
> our research we miss many opportunities for discovery through
> basic researc/and luck  to solve the very problems we attemt to
> deal with through targeted research.

In article <6ljken$89g$1@news.tamu.edu>, dahd <dahd@xxnospam.com> wrote:
>
>And the sad fact is that there are very very serious problems with
>insect pests that need a great deal more attention and funding.
>
>To name a few--
>
>Fire ants throughout the South
>Termites Control
>Roach Control
>Cattle Pests of Various sorts
>Tick Control/ to control arthropod borne diseases like Lyme Disease
>and several others.
o>Mosquitos-- public health issues here.  We haven't had a great
>huge encephalitis epidemic in years, but it can happen.  Lots of
>other diseases transmitted by these critters too.
>
>The point here is that bucks have been going to very sexy research
>areas in biotech and genetics. Great! But there is still lots of
>of biological research that needs doing.

>Underfunded areas-- Entomology, Botany, Invertebrate Zoology.

Honey bee parasitism/disease research should have been included in the
above list--we'll forgive dahd for the omission.

But molecular biology is so elegant--you just find 'em and grind 'em right?
I mean, can't _anyone_ sequence genomes now, with all the nifty software?

>Nearly dead areas of scholarship include paleontology,  comparative 
>anatomy, developmental embryology
>just to name  a few.
>

Well, with Cladistics and the new perception that molecular genetics gives
the researcher, why mess around with these untidy disciplines, right?

>Well, resources are always limited, and we put our bucks in a targeted
>fashion on what seems important to human interest-- and by targeting
>our research we miss many opportunities for discovery through
>basic research/and luck  to solve the very problems we attempt to 
>deal with through targeted research.

Yep. 

Adam

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