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Toolie <toolie.nospam@nospam.com> wrote in
message news:37F9A852.D815924@nospam.com...

> (I asked my ISP to post this indirectly to rec.pets.herp and the ISP
> approved because it contained no profanity or senseless wordings.)

Does that mean the ISP wont let you post directly ?

They get no say on 'senseless wordings'

> Since I've been reading several books on the destruction that
> introduced species can do to Australia, I have come to the conclusion
> that reptiles should be sterilized before they are sold to anyone.

How would you feel if that was done to you ?

> Australia has not got the right predators to keep exotic reptile numbers down.

Well, there is a real risk of a problem, anyway.

> But...I have a question...Would de-sexed exotic
> reptiles cause a serious problem to Australia?

They can do. They can for example bring reptile
diseases with them that decimate our reptiles.

> This is a pretty good system that I've worked out. This is my solution.

Dont you think that if it was that simple,
someone would have thought of it already ?

> (1) Good quality healthy breeding pairs of harmless reptiles are
> imported, and quarantined for a period of time until such time as
> they can be properly tested and assumed virus and disease free.

You can never be sure they actually are virus and disease free.

> (2) These animals are then sent to government
> approved breeding institutions, the reptiles would
> be bred in such institutions under > strict guidelines.

Very expensive business, cant see the govt buying that any time
soon when such a tiny minority want to import exotic reptiles.

> A good security system would be used to
> ensure that intruders don't take the animals.

Even more expensive.

> Animals would be locked away in secure housing internally
> with bullet-proof glass to ensure that if an intruder should
> break in, the animals would be inaccessible to any such intruder.

Wouldnt stop someone breaking in with a forklift etc. Or some gelly.

> (3) The hatchlings are checked, and hatchlings that are of the
> highest quality are held back and used for breeding better bloodlines.

Who's gunna pay for all this ?

> The rest of the hatchlings are then routinely sterilized (de-sexed)
> and then sold to collectors and such for a reasonable price.

In which case someone else will have to pay the huge cost. No thanks.

> (4) The people who wish to collect such reptiles must have
> a permit that is obtained by a government department.

More expense.

> The license is just used as a way to control the number
> of people obtaining the animals and would alleviate any
> fears by animal welfare groups or conservationist groups,
> that these animals would pose any threat at all.

Not a chance, they'll hyperventilate whatever you do.

> The cost of a license would be a reasonable price per year.

Then the taxpayer would have to pick up the
enormous tab for this charade. No thanks.

> This would be the BEST system for would-be
> exotic reptile collectors in Australia.

And aint got a hope in hell of happening.

> Since most reptiles, if properly looked after, can last a very long time
> (around 20 years). And since they cannot breed due to being sterilized,
> they don't pose any threat as far as becoming feral is concerned.

> What do you think?

That you need professional help with your obsession with exotic reptiles bad.

And that it would be a hell of a lot cheaper to
buy an airline ticket for you to yankeeland etc.

  Sorry to be so ignorant in Aussie slang...but what in the world is a 'pom'
or an 'abo'?

Michael Curry <mcurry@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:QMFK3.34813$ei1.59971@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...
> Man, get a grip. Have  a sense of Humour. I was just getting in on your
> string of thoughtless comments.
>
> I have no probs at all with the use of the term pom.
>
> "Abo" though is a derogitory term when used in that way,  and working in
> aboriginal welfare I do find it slightly offensive. No enough to have a
> serious go at you though.
>
> Lighten up and stay on topic.
>
>
> Rod Speed <rod.speed@usa.net> wrote in message
> news:7tf7ol$gl9$1@news1.mpx.com.au...
> >
> > Some pom claiming to be Michael Curry <mcurry@bigpond.com> wrote
> > in message news:ZbFK3.34788$ei1.59661@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...
> >
> > > I think you've got the wrong newsgroup here mate.
> >
> > Not a shred of evidence that you are actually capable of thought.
> >
> > > Try REC.STUPID.RACIST.PRICK
> >
> > That wont work, poms are the same race as most of us, including me.
> >
> > > Rod Speed <rod.speed@usa.net> wrote
> > >> Michael Curry <mcurry@bigpond.com> wrote
> >
> > >>> As a fellow Australian I couldn't agree more. Look how
> > >>> much this country has been stuffed up by importing crap.
> >
> > >> Yeah, specially all those damned poms.
> >
> > >>> Also nothing is done about it when things get out
> > >>> of hand unless there are significant economic threat.
> >
> > >> With the poms its probably because Adolf did get a tad carried away.
> >
> > >>> Look at the amount of funding behind rabbit
> > >>> erradication compared to Cane Toad erradication.
> >
> > >> And the funding for pom eradication.
> >
> > >>> (Also note here that I pity the poor disillusioned sould that
> > >>> claims Cane Toads have had no effect on the environment....)
> >
> > >>> It all comes down to the dollar.
> >
> > >> Specially with all those poms, there's so many of them. And
> > >> an eradication campaign would need all 'the workers' to be
> > >> fitted with ear protection against the incessent whingeing.
> >
> > >>> The sceme will never get off the ground to
> > >>> import reptiles and sterilise them for pets.
> >
> > >> Maybe we could try it with poms. Nar,
> > >> too much whingeing even when sterilised.
> >
> > >>> A similar thing has already been passed for hamsters
> > >>> and how many of them do you see? None. You know why?
> > >>> Cause no one would pay $1500 for a male castrated hamster.
> >
> > >> Or a male castrated pom either.
> >
> > >>> If you want to get exotic animals in its just not worth it.
> >
> > >> Yeah, plenty of natives who are animals.
> >
> > >>> Australians should be looking toward native animals as pets.
> >
> > >> Thats mostly illegal too.
> >
> > >>> Get rid of the dogs and cats and ferrets and
> > >>> rabbits and guinea pigs (cavies) and rats and
> > >>> mice and other crap that we have here already
> >
> > >> Like poms.
> >
> > >>> and start pushing native replacements that
> > >>> the environment can handle if they escape...
> >
> > >> Dunno, could be a few problems with pet crocodiles.
> > >> Could cause a bit of a stir down the local pool etc.
> >
> > >>> There is plenty of great animals here already without importing more
> >
> > >> True, no more immigration.
> >
> > >>> and most states have a good range of natives you are allowed
> > >>> to keep as pets as long as they have been captive bred.
> >
> > >> Dunno, its illegal in all states to do captive breeding of abos now.
> >
> > >>> This is where the focus should be.
> >
> > >> Dunno, not too many that suitable for say keeping
> > >> the damned druggys from looting your house etc.
> >
> > >>> Forget the imports.
> >
> > >> The poms are unforgettable.
> >
> > >>> GO NATIVE INSTEAD!!!!!
> >
> > >> The poms always frowned on anyone who went native.
> >
> > >>> Comments appreciated.
> >
> > >> Bet they wont be.
> >
> > And they werent, he went completely ape. Just another exotic import no
> doubt.
> >
> >
>
>

> And aint got a hope in hell of happening.

DONT THINK SO?!?!?!?! Abortion ON DEMAND happened - AND IT KILLS UNBORN CHILDREN!!!
Drugs ON DEMAND are being legalised AND THEY WRECK OUR SOCIETY! WHAT ELSE? Want to
ADD ANYHING ELSE TO THIS LIST?!?!?!

Do you ever take the time to think properly at all? This is a DEMOCRATIC society
that I live in. Don't dare tell me ANYTHING that indicates that nothing reasonable
WILL NOT HAPPEN in a DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY LIKE AUSTRALIA.

Goddammit, get a life, Rod. Wake up! Wake up!!! WAKE UP!!!!!!!
BBBBRRRRIIIIINNNNNNNGGGGG Alarm clock is banging on your bed-side table! WAKE UP!!!!

Stop dreaming, Rod. Remember, abortion is about as low as society can get, and that
is allowed!!!!!!!!! I think perhaps they should wipe us humans out with a virus that
only directly affects homo sapiens primates and their ascendants.

I think the virus would be the best solution. That would end ALL environmental
problems FOREVER. Forget this abortion and political bulldust and hidden agenda.

> That you need professional help with your obsession with exotic reptiles bad.

And I think you need to think longer and harder and realise that there are people
with other opinions other than your own. You have an obsession with ridiculously
objective comments to other people's posts!!! That's YOUR obsession. Now, 'bout time
you get a life.

> And that it would be a hell of a lot cheaper to
> buy an airline ticket for you to yankeeland etc.

Don't you understand? I can't GET INTO AMERICA!!! HOW MANY TIMES!?

Since I can't do that. I feel, that, in this anti-democratic climate where Australia
is full of animal welfare scunthorpes, the best and cheapest option would be to
borrow a gun and buy a 20c bullet. That would be the cheapest. The only effort I
need is to pull my finger on the trigger. That just about sums it all up.

Toolie <toolie.nospam@nospam.com> came completely
off his trolley and started rabidly raving again in message news:37FAE377.2BA18D68@nospam.com...

>> And aint got a hope in hell of happening.

> DONT THINK SO?!?!?!?! Abortion ON DEMAND
> happened - AND IT KILLS UNBORN CHILDREN!!!

Got SFA to do with whether we will ever be silly
enough to spend an immense amount of money so that
a few complete loons like you can get exotic reptiles.

<reams of your rabid raving flushed where it belongs>

>>> What do you think?

>> That you need professional help with your obsession with exotic reptiles bad.

>> And that it would be a hell of a lot cheaper to
>> buy an airline ticket for you to yankeeland etc.

> Don't you understand? I can't GET INTO AMERICA!!! HOW MANY TIMES!?

And its obvious why you cant, they arent silly enough to
let rabid loons like you in. They've got enough of their own.

There was an 'etc' on the end of my sentence for a reason.

> Since I can't do that. I feel, that, in this anti-democratic climate
> where Australia is full of animal welfare scunthorpes, the best
> and cheapest option would be to borrow a gun and buy a 20c
> bullet. That would be the cheapest. The only effort I need is
> to pull my finger on the trigger. That just about sums it all up.

That would certainly be a rather cheaper solution. Feel free.

Toolie wrote in message <37FAE377.2BA18D68@nospam.com>...
>> And aint got a hope in hell of happening.
>
>DONT THINK SO?!?!?!?! Abortion ON DEMAND happened - AND IT KILLS UNBORN
CHILDREN!!!
>Drugs ON DEMAND are being legalised AND THEY WRECK OUR SOCIETY! WHAT ELSE?
Want to
>ADD ANYHING ELSE TO THIS LIST?!?!?!

What?  Like fucking up the delicate ecosystem by importing exotics to please
a very small group of selfish people who "just have to have one"?

>
>Do you ever take the time to think properly at all? This is a DEMOCRATIC
society
>that I live in. Don't dare tell me ANYTHING that indicates that nothing
reasonable
>WILL NOT HAPPEN in a DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY LIKE AUSTRALIA.
>

It's my democratic society too and I have seen introduced species do enough
damage. I exercise my democratic right to vote against your proposal.

>Goddammit, get a life, Rod. Wake up! Wake up!!! WAKE UP!!!!!!!
>BBBBRRRRIIIIINNNNNNNGGGGG Alarm clock is banging on your bed-side table!
WAKE UP!!!!
>
>Stop dreaming, Rod. Remember, abortion is about as low as society can get,
and that
>is allowed!!!!!!!!! I think perhaps they should wipe us humans out with a
virus that
>only directly affects homo sapiens primates and their ascendants.
>
Oh - it's okey dokey to sterilise the herps (your choice - not theirs) but
NOT okay for a human being to exercise their rights, both legally and
morally.  That's REAL democratic!  And don't rant on with the "murdering
babies" crap argument - that can be said for every conception that failed to
be because of birth control methods.  Anyone who has decided to terminate a
pregnancy has come to that decision after a lot of deliberation and
soul-searching.

>I think the virus would be the best solution. That would end ALL
environmental
>problems FOREVER. Forget this abortion and political bulldust and hidden
agenda.
>
>> That you need professional help with your obsession with exotic reptiles
bad.
>
>And I think you need to think longer and harder and realise that there are
people
>with other opinions other than your own. You have an obsession with
ridiculously
>objective comments to other people's posts!!! That's YOUR obsession. Now,
'bout time
>you get a life.

There are opinions and then there are, well, fruit loop ideas.
>
>> And that it would be a hell of a lot cheaper to
>> buy an airline ticket for you to yankeeland etc.
>
>Don't you understand? I can't GET INTO AMERICA!!! HOW MANY TIMES!?
>
Gee, shucks.  Now, that IS a shame.

>Since I can't do that. I feel, that, in this anti-democratic climate where
Australia
>is full of animal welfare scunthorpes, the best and cheapest option would
be to
>borrow a gun and buy a 20c bullet. That would be the cheapest. The only
effort I
>need is to pull my finger on the trigger. That just about sums it all up.
>

Don't let us hold you up.

As a fellow Australian I couldn't agree more. Look how much this country has
been stuffed up by importing crap. Also nothing is done about it when things
get out of hand unless there are significant economic threat. Look at the
amount of funding behind rabbit erradication compared to Cane Toad
erradication. (Also note here that I pity the poor disillusioned sould that
claims Cane Toads have had no effect on the environment....)

It all comes down to the dollar.

The sceme will never get off the ground to import reptiles and sterilise
them for pets. A similar thing has already been passed for hamsters and how
many of them do you see? None. You know why? Cause no one would pay $1500
for a male castrated hamster. If you want to get exotic animals in its just
not worth it.

Australians should be looking toward native animals as pets. Get rid of the
dogs and cats and ferrets and rabbits and guinea pigs (cavies) and rats and
mice and other crap that we have here already and start pushing native
replacements that the environment can handle if they escape... There is
plenty of great animals here already without importing more and most states
have a good range of natives you are allowed to keep as pets as long as they
have been captive bred. This is where the focus should be. Forget the
imports.

GO NATIVE INSTEAD!!!!!

Comments appreciated.

Michael Curry


Kay <kay@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:aSCK3.4777$lE.27527@ozemail.com.au...
>
> Toolie wrote in message <37FAE377.2BA18D68@nospam.com>...
> >> And aint got a hope in hell of happening.
> >
> >DONT THINK SO?!?!?!?! Abortion ON DEMAND happened - AND IT KILLS UNBORN
> CHILDREN!!!
> >Drugs ON DEMAND are being legalised AND THEY WRECK OUR SOCIETY! WHAT
ELSE?
> Want to
> >ADD ANYHING ELSE TO THIS LIST?!?!?!
>
> What?  Like fucking up the delicate ecosystem by importing exotics to
please
> a very small group of selfish people who "just have to have one"?
>
> >
> >Do you ever take the time to think properly at all? This is a DEMOCRATIC
> society
> >that I live in. Don't dare tell me ANYTHING that indicates that nothing
> reasonable
> >WILL NOT HAPPEN in a DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY LIKE AUSTRALIA.
> >
>
> It's my democratic society too and I have seen introduced species do
enough
> damage. I exercise my democratic right to vote against your proposal.
>
> >Goddammit, get a life, Rod. Wake up! Wake up!!! WAKE UP!!!!!!!
> >BBBBRRRRIIIIINNNNNNNGGGGG Alarm clock is banging on your bed-side table!
> WAKE UP!!!!
> >
> >Stop dreaming, Rod. Remember, abortion is about as low as society can
get,
> and that
> >is allowed!!!!!!!!! I think perhaps they should wipe us humans out with a
> virus that
> >only directly affects homo sapiens primates and their ascendants.
> >
> Oh - it's okey dokey to sterilise the herps (your choice - not theirs) but
> NOT okay for a human being to exercise their rights, both legally and
> morally.  That's REAL democratic!  And don't rant on with the "murdering
> babies" crap argument - that can be said for every conception that failed
to
> be because of birth control methods.  Anyone who has decided to terminate
a
> pregnancy has come to that decision after a lot of deliberation and
> soul-searching.
>
> >I think the virus would be the best solution. That would end ALL
> environmental
> >problems FOREVER. Forget this abortion and political bulldust and hidden
> agenda.
> >
> >> That you need professional help with your obsession with exotic
reptiles
> bad.
> >
> >And I think you need to think longer and harder and realise that there
are
> people
> >with other opinions other than your own. You have an obsession with
> ridiculously
> >objective comments to other people's posts!!! That's YOUR obsession. Now,
> 'bout time
> >you get a life.
>
> There are opinions and then there are, well, fruit loop ideas.
> >
> >> And that it would be a hell of a lot cheaper to
> >> buy an airline ticket for you to yankeeland etc.
> >
> >Don't you understand? I can't GET INTO AMERICA!!! HOW MANY TIMES!?
> >
> Gee, shucks.  Now, that IS a shame.
>
> >Since I can't do that. I feel, that, in this anti-democratic climate
where
> Australia
> >is full of animal welfare scunthorpes, the best and cheapest option would
> be to
> >borrow a gun and buy a 20c bullet. That would be the cheapest. The only
> effort I
> >need is to pull my finger on the trigger. That just about sums it all up.
> >
>
> Don't let us hold you up.
>
>
>
>

Michael Curry <mcurry@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:q1DK3.4780$lE.27064@ozemail.com.au...

> As a fellow Australian I couldn't agree more. Look how
> much this country has been stuffed up by importing crap.

Yeah, specially all those damned poms.

> Also nothing is done about it when things get out
> of hand unless there are significant economic threat.

With the poms its probably because Adolf did get a tad carried away.

> Look at the amount of funding behind rabbit
> erradication compared to Cane Toad erradication.

And the funding for pom eradication.

> (Also note here that I pity the poor disillusioned sould that
> claims Cane Toads have had no effect on the environment....)

> It all comes down to the dollar.

Specially with all those poms, there's so many of them. And
an eradication campaign would need all 'the workers' to be
fitted with ear protection  against the incessent whingeing.

> The sceme will never get off the ground to
> import reptiles and sterilise them for pets.

Maybe we could try it with poms. Nar, too much whingeing even when sterilised.

> A similar thing has already been passed for hamsters
> and how many of them do you see? None. You know why?
> Cause no one would pay $1500 for a male castrated hamster.

Or a males castrated pom either.

> If you want to get exotic animals in its just not worth it.

Yeah, plenty of natives who are animals.

> Australians should be looking toward native animals as pets.

Thats mostly illegal too.

> Get rid of the dogs and cats and ferrets and
> rabbits and guinea pigs (cavies) and rats and
> mice and other crap that we have here already

Like poms.

> and start pushing native replacements that
> the environment can handle if they escape...

Dunno, could be a few problems with pet crocodiles.
Could cause a bit of a stir down the local pool etc.

> There is plenty of great animals here already without importing more

True, no more immigration.

> and most states have a good range of natives you are allowed
> to keep as pets as long as they have been captive bred.

Dunno, its illegal in all states to do captive breeding of abos now.

> This is where the focus should be.

Dunno, not too many that suitable for say keeping
the damned druggys from looting your house etc.

> Forget the imports.

The poms are unforgettable.

> GO NATIVE INSTEAD!!!!!

The poms always frowned on anyone who went native.

> Comments appreciated.

Bet they wont be.

I think you've got the wrong newsgroup here mate.

Try REC.STUPID.RACIST.PRICK


Rod Speed <rod.speed@usa.net> wrote in message
news:7tevdv$jkd$1@news1.mpx.com.au...
>
> Michael Curry <mcurry@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:q1DK3.4780$lE.27064@ozemail.com.au...
>
> > As a fellow Australian I couldn't agree more. Look how
> > much this country has been stuffed up by importing crap.
>
> Yeah, specially all those damned poms.
>
> > Also nothing is done about it when things get out
> > of hand unless there are significant economic threat.
>
> With the poms its probably because Adolf did get a tad carried away.
>
> > Look at the amount of funding behind rabbit
> > erradication compared to Cane Toad erradication.
>
> And the funding for pom eradication.
>
> > (Also note here that I pity the poor disillusioned sould that
> > claims Cane Toads have had no effect on the environment....)
>
> > It all comes down to the dollar.
>
> Specially with all those poms, there's so many of them. And
> an eradication campaign would need all 'the workers' to be
> fitted with ear protection  against the incessent whingeing.
>
> > The sceme will never get off the ground to
> > import reptiles and sterilise them for pets.
>
> Maybe we could try it with poms. Nar, too much whingeing even when
sterilised.
>
> > A similar thing has already been passed for hamsters
> > and how many of them do you see? None. You know why?
> > Cause no one would pay $1500 for a male castrated hamster.
>
> Or a males castrated pom either.
>
> > If you want to get exotic animals in its just not worth it.
>
> Yeah, plenty of natives who are animals.
>
> > Australians should be looking toward native animals as pets.
>
> Thats mostly illegal too.
>
> > Get rid of the dogs and cats and ferrets and
> > rabbits and guinea pigs (cavies) and rats and
> > mice and other crap that we have here already
>
> Like poms.
>
> > and start pushing native replacements that
> > the environment can handle if they escape...
>
> Dunno, could be a few problems with pet crocodiles.
> Could cause a bit of a stir down the local pool etc.
>
> > There is plenty of great animals here already without importing more
>
> True, no more immigration.
>
> > and most states have a good range of natives you are allowed
> > to keep as pets as long as they have been captive bred.
>
> Dunno, its illegal in all states to do captive breeding of abos now.
>
> > This is where the focus should be.
>
> Dunno, not too many that suitable for say keeping
> the damned druggys from looting your house etc.
>
> > Forget the imports.
>
> The poms are unforgettable.
>
> > GO NATIVE INSTEAD!!!!!
>
> The poms always frowned on anyone who went native.
>
> > Comments appreciated.
>
> Bet they wont be.
>
>
>

Some pom claiming to be Michael Curry <mcurry@bigpond.com> wrote
in message news:ZbFK3.34788$ei1.59661@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...

> I think you've got the wrong newsgroup here mate.

Not a shred of evidence that you are actually capable of thought.

> Try REC.STUPID.RACIST.PRICK

That wont work, poms are the same race as most of us, including me.

> Rod Speed <rod.speed@usa.net> wrote
>> Michael Curry <mcurry@bigpond.com> wrote

>>> As a fellow Australian I couldn't agree more. Look how
>>> much this country has been stuffed up by importing crap.

>> Yeah, specially all those damned poms.

>>> Also nothing is done about it when things get out
>>> of hand unless there are significant economic threat.

>> With the poms its probably because Adolf did get a tad carried away.

>>> Look at the amount of funding behind rabbit
>>> erradication compared to Cane Toad erradication.

>> And the funding for pom eradication.

>>> (Also note here that I pity the poor disillusioned sould that
>>> claims Cane Toads have had no effect on the environment....)

>>> It all comes down to the dollar.

>> Specially with all those poms, there's so many of them. And
>> an eradication campaign would need all 'the workers' to be
>> fitted with ear protection against the incessent whingeing.

>>> The sceme will never get off the ground to
>>> import reptiles and sterilise them for pets.

>> Maybe we could try it with poms. Nar,
>> too much whingeing even when sterilised.

>>> A similar thing has already been passed for hamsters
>>> and how many of them do you see? None. You know why?
>>> Cause no one would pay $1500 for a male castrated hamster.

>> Or a male castrated pom either.

>>> If you want to get exotic animals in its just not worth it.

>> Yeah, plenty of natives who are animals.

>>> Australians should be looking toward native animals as pets.

>> Thats mostly illegal too.

>>> Get rid of the dogs and cats and ferrets and
>>> rabbits and guinea pigs (cavies) and rats and
>>> mice and other crap that we have here already

>> Like poms.

>>> and start pushing native replacements that
>>> the environment can handle if they escape...

>> Dunno, could be a few problems with pet crocodiles.
>> Could cause a bit of a stir down the local pool etc.

>>> There is plenty of great animals here already without importing more

>> True, no more immigration.

>>> and most states have a good range of natives you are allowed
>>> to keep as pets as long as they have been captive bred.

>> Dunno, its illegal in all states to do captive breeding of abos now.

>>> This is where the focus should be.

>> Dunno, not too many that suitable for say keeping
>> the damned druggys from looting your house etc.

>>> Forget the imports.

>> The poms are unforgettable.

>>> GO NATIVE INSTEAD!!!!!

>> The poms always frowned on anyone who went native.

>>> Comments appreciated.

>> Bet they wont be.

And they werent, he went completely ape. Just another exotic import no doubt.

Toolie wrote:
> 
> > And aint got a hope in hell of happening.

That was a big snip.

> 
> DONT THINK SO?!?!?!?! Abortion ON DEMAND happened - AND IT KILLS UNBORN CHILDREN!!!
> Drugs ON DEMAND are being legalised AND THEY WRECK OUR SOCIETY! WHAT ELSE? Want to
> ADD ANYHING ELSE TO THIS LIST?!?!?!
>

That's irrelevant.
 
> Do you ever take the time to think properly at all? This is a DEMOCRATIC society
> that I live in. Don't dare tell me ANYTHING that indicates that nothing reasonable
> WILL NOT HAPPEN in a DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY LIKE AUSTRALIA.

You need a proofreader.

> 
> Goddammit, get a life, Rod. Wake up! Wake up!!! WAKE UP!!!!!!!
> BBBBRRRRIIIIINNNNNNNGGGGG Alarm clock is banging on your bed-side table! WAKE UP!!!!
> 
> Stop dreaming, Rod. Remember, abortion is about as low as society can get, and that
> is allowed!!!!!!!!! I think perhaps they should wipe us humans out with a virus that
> only directly affects homo sapiens primates and their ascendants.

Why do you keep bringing abortion into the argument ,I thought we were
talking reptiles.

> 
> I think the virus would be the best solution. That would end ALL environmental
> problems FOREVER. Forget this abortion and political bulldust and hidden agenda.
> 

Maybe you could download one.

> > That you need professional help with your obsession with exotic reptiles bad.
> 
> And I think you need to think longer and harder and realise that there are people
> with other opinions other than your own. You have an obsession with ridiculously
> objective comments to other people's posts!!! That's YOUR obsession. Now, 'bout time
> you get a life.
> 
> > And that it would be a hell of a lot cheaper to
> > buy an airline ticket for you to yankeeland etc.
> 
> Don't you understand? I can't GET INTO AMERICA!!! HOW MANY TIMES!?

There MUST be a way.

> 
> Since I can't do that. I feel, that, in this anti-democratic climate where Australia
> is full of animal welfare scunthorpes, the best and cheapest option would be to
> borrow a gun and buy a 20c bullet. That would be the cheapest. The only effort I
> need is to pull my finger on the trigger. That just about sums it all up.

Borrow the bullet too.

Alecto.

Man, get a grip. Have  a sense of Humour. I was just getting in on your
string of thoughtless comments.

I have no probs at all with the use of the term pom.

"Abo" though is a derogitory term when used in that way,  and working in
aboriginal welfare I do find it slightly offensive. No enough to have a
serious go at you though.

Lighten up and stay on topic.


Rod Speed <rod.speed@usa.net> wrote in message
news:7tf7ol$gl9$1@news1.mpx.com.au...
>
> Some pom claiming to be Michael Curry <mcurry@bigpond.com> wrote
> in message news:ZbFK3.34788$ei1.59661@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...
>
> > I think you've got the wrong newsgroup here mate.
>
> Not a shred of evidence that you are actually capable of thought.
>
> > Try REC.STUPID.RACIST.PRICK
>
> That wont work, poms are the same race as most of us, including me.
>
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed@usa.net> wrote
> >> Michael Curry <mcurry@bigpond.com> wrote
>
> >>> As a fellow Australian I couldn't agree more. Look how
> >>> much this country has been stuffed up by importing crap.
>
> >> Yeah, specially all those damned poms.
>
> >>> Also nothing is done about it when things get out
> >>> of hand unless there are significant economic threat.
>
> >> With the poms its probably because Adolf did get a tad carried away.
>
> >>> Look at the amount of funding behind rabbit
> >>> erradication compared to Cane Toad erradication.
>
> >> And the funding for pom eradication.
>
> >>> (Also note here that I pity the poor disillusioned sould that
> >>> claims Cane Toads have had no effect on the environment....)
>
> >>> It all comes down to the dollar.
>
> >> Specially with all those poms, there's so many of them. And
> >> an eradication campaign would need all 'the workers' to be
> >> fitted with ear protection against the incessent whingeing.
>
> >>> The sceme will never get off the ground to
> >>> import reptiles and sterilise them for pets.
>
> >> Maybe we could try it with poms. Nar,
> >> too much whingeing even when sterilised.
>
> >>> A similar thing has already been passed for hamsters
> >>> and how many of them do you see? None. You know why?
> >>> Cause no one would pay $1500 for a male castrated hamster.
>
> >> Or a male castrated pom either.
>
> >>> If you want to get exotic animals in its just not worth it.
>
> >> Yeah, plenty of natives who are animals.
>
> >>> Australians should be looking toward native animals as pets.
>
> >> Thats mostly illegal too.
>
> >>> Get rid of the dogs and cats and ferrets and
> >>> rabbits and guinea pigs (cavies) and rats and
> >>> mice and other crap that we have here already
>
> >> Like poms.
>
> >>> and start pushing native replacements that
> >>> the environment can handle if they escape...
>
> >> Dunno, could be a few problems with pet crocodiles.
> >> Could cause a bit of a stir down the local pool etc.
>
> >>> There is plenty of great animals here already without importing more
>
> >> True, no more immigration.
>
> >>> and most states have a good range of natives you are allowed
> >>> to keep as pets as long as they have been captive bred.
>
> >> Dunno, its illegal in all states to do captive breeding of abos now.
>
> >>> This is where the focus should be.
>
> >> Dunno, not too many that suitable for say keeping
> >> the damned druggys from looting your house etc.
>
> >>> Forget the imports.
>
> >> The poms are unforgettable.
>
> >>> GO NATIVE INSTEAD!!!!!
>
> >> The poms always frowned on anyone who went native.
>
> >>> Comments appreciated.
>
> >> Bet they wont be.
>
> And they werent, he went completely ape. Just another exotic import no
doubt.
>
>

missy <nonya@business.com> wrote in message
news:7HHK3.1706$eM4.143211@typ11.nn.bcandid.com...

> Sorry to be so ignorant in Aussie slang...but what in the world is a 'pom'

A 'person' from england, or more strictly britain.

> or an 'abo'?

Aborigine.

I noticed Ted Turner, the top banana at CNN, using it
in an inteview on from memory the ABC just this week.

Michael Curry <mcurry@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:QMFK3.34813$ei1.59971@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...

> Man, get a grip. Have a sense of Humour.

You in spades. Did you really think I was serious about poms ?  Or Abos ?

> I was just getting in on your string of thoughtless comments.

You didnt even notice that it was a joke, Joyce.

> I have no probs at all with the use of the term pom.

You have always been, and always will be, completely
and utterly irrelevant. Specially when you are so stupid
that you didnt even notice that my original was a joke.

> "Abo" though is a derogitory term when used in that way,

Wrong. Its just another example of our propensity for that
type of abbreviation. Seen with smoko, johnno, davo, leso etc.

It isnt always feasible like with poms, there isnt any
easy way to turn English or British into that sort of
abbreviation, so the word pom is used instead.

> and working in aboriginal welfare I do find it slightly offensive.

You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly irrelevant.

> No enough to have a serious go at you though.

You'd just make an even bigger fool of yourself than you've just done.
Hard to believe that is actually possible, but I bet you'd manage that.

> Lighten up

I tried that already, some clown didnt even notice. Wota prat.

> and stay on topic.

Do something unprintable with your head and a dead bear's bum.


> Rod Speed <rod.speed@usa.net> wrote
>> Some pom claiming to be Michael Curry <mcurry@bigpond.com> wrote
>> in message news:ZbFK3.34788$ei1.59661@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...

>>> I think you've got the wrong newsgroup here mate.

>> Not a shred of evidence that you are actually capable of thought.

>>> Try REC.STUPID.RACIST.PRICK

>> That wont work, poms are the same race as most of us, including me.

>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed@usa.net> wrote
>>>> Michael Curry <mcurry@bigpond.com> wrote

>>>>> As a fellow Australian I couldn't agree more. Look how
>>>>> much this country has been stuffed up by importing crap.

>>>> Yeah, specially all those damned poms.

>>>>> Also nothing is done about it when things get out
>>>>> of hand unless there are significant economic threat.

>>>> With the poms its probably because Adolf did get a tad carried away.

>>>>> Look at the amount of funding behind rabbit
>>>>> erradication compared to Cane Toad erradication.

>>>> And the funding for pom eradication.

>>>>> (Also note here that I pity the poor disillusioned sould that
>>>>> claims Cane Toads have had no effect on the environment....)

>>>>> It all comes down to the dollar.

>>>> Specially with all those poms, there's so many of them. And
>>>> an eradication campaign would need all 'the workers' to be
>>>> fitted with ear protection against the incessent whingeing.

>>>>> The sceme will never get off the ground to
>>>>> import reptiles and sterilise them for pets.

>>>> Maybe we could try it with poms. Nar,
>>>> too much whingeing even when sterilised.

>>>>> A similar thing has already been passed for hamsters
>>>>> and how many of them do you see? None. You know why?
>>>>> Cause no one would pay $1500 for a male castrated hamster.

>>>> Or a male castrated pom either.

>>>>> If you want to get exotic animals in its just not worth it.

>>>> Yeah, plenty of natives who are animals.

>>>>> Australians should be looking toward native animals as pets.

>>>> Thats mostly illegal too.

>>>>> Get rid of the dogs and cats and ferrets and
>>>>> rabbits and guinea pigs (cavies) and rats and
>>>>> mice and other crap that we have here already

>>>> Like poms.

>>>>> and start pushing native replacements that
>>>>> the environment can handle if they escape...

>>>> Dunno, could be a few problems with pet crocodiles.
>>>> Could cause a bit of a stir down the local pool etc.

>>>>> There is plenty of great animals here already without importing more

>>>> True, no more immigration.

>>>>> and most states have a good range of natives you are allowed
>>>>> to keep as pets as long as they have been captive bred.

>>>> Dunno, its illegal in all states to do captive breeding of abos now.

>>>>> This is where the focus should be.

>>>> Dunno, not too many that suitable for say keeping
>>>> the damned druggys from looting your house etc.

>>>>> Forget the imports.

>>>> The poms are unforgettable.

>>>>> GO NATIVE INSTEAD!!!!!

>>>> The poms always frowned on anyone who went native.

>>>>> Comments appreciated.

>>>> Bet they wont be.

>> And they werent, he went completely ape.
>> Just another exotic import no doubt.

Bet he'd go ape again now.

Greetings

Just lurking as normal but feel a correction is in order

Rod Speed <rod.speed@usa.net> wrote in message
news:7tevdv$jkd$1@news1.mpx.com.au...

> Yeah, specially all those damned poms.

> With the poms its probably because Adolf did get a tad carried away.

> And the funding for pom eradication.

> Maybe we could try it with poms. Nar, too much whingeing even when
sterilised.

> Or a males castrated pom either.

> Like poms.

> The poms are unforgettable.

> The poms always frowned on anyone who went native.

Rod Speed <rod.speed@usa.net> wrote in message
news:7tfuku$of5$1@news1.mpx.com.au...
>
> missy <nonya@business.com> wrote in message
> news:7HHK3.1706$eM4.143211@typ11.nn.bcandid.com...
>
> > Sorry to be so ignorant in Aussie slang...but what in the world is a
'pom'
>
> A 'person' from england, or more strictly britain.

Pom, is spelt POHM, it is an acronym for Prisoner Of Her Majesty. I'm from
England, that makes me a Limey. Work it out for yourself who the real pohms
are :-)

--
Myk Rushton                 BSc Eco/Ecotech
25B Pine Avenue        Tel: 0064 7 5700 275
Otumoetai              Fax: 0064 7 5700 276
Tauranga
New Zealand         myk.rushton@bigfoot.com

Myk Rushton <permaculture@wave.co.nz> wrote
in message news:7tj0n7$pr9$1@news.wave.co.nz...

> Just lurking as normal but feel a correction is in order

You havent managed any 'correction', you've just run a tiny minority view.

> Rod Speed <rod.speed@usa.net> wrote

>> Yeah, specially all those damned poms.

> Rod Speed <rod.speed@usa.net> wrote
>> missy <nonya@business.com> wrote

>>> Sorry to be so ignorant in Aussie slang...but what in the world is a 'pom'

>> A 'person' from england, or more strictly britain.

> Pom, is spelt POHM,

Wrong. Have a look at the Macquarie Dictionary for example.

> it is an acronym for Prisoner Of Her Majesty.

Thats just one of the claimed derivations.

> I'm from England,

We each have our cross to bear.

> that makes me a Limey.

And a pom.

> Work it out for yourself who the real pohms are :-)

You poms.

Rod Speed <rod.speed@usa.net> wrote in message
news:7tj8r5$qah$1@news1.mpx.com.au...
>
> Myk Rushton <permaculture@wave.co.nz> wrote
> > Just lurking as normal but feel a correction is in order

> You havent managed any 'correction', you've just run a tiny minority view.

Probably right but writing ..but feel a tiny minority view is in order.
Wouldn't really have had the same effect :-)

> > Pom, is spelt POHM,

> Wrong. Have a look at the Macquarie Dictionary for example.

Now why would I have an Australian dictionary when I speak English? ;->

> Thats just one of the claimed derivations.

That's all you need have said. Perhaps you could have added your definition
i.e. that which you beleive to be true. I don't suppose the word was pulled
from the ether.

> > I'm from England,

> We each have our cross to bear.

At least mines on a flag! :-)

> > that makes me a Limey.

> And a pom.

> > Work it out for yourself who the real pohms are :-)

> You poms.

What us Brits poms? Well I never. Least we have a sense of humour, or do we?
;->

BTW IAS, What is an person born in Australia know as?
--
Myk Rushton (Pom)

Myk Rushton <permaculture@wave.co.nz> wrote
in message news:7tjl6n$4q$1@news.wave.co.nz...
> Rod Speed <rod.speed@usa.net> wrote
>> Myk Rushton <permaculture@wave.co.nz> wrote

>>> Just lurking as normal but feel a correction is in order

>> You havent managed any 'correction', you've just run a tiny minority view.

> Probably right but writing ..but feel a tiny minority view is in order.
> Wouldn't really have had the same effect :-)

Nothing you wrote would have any effect, you aint the first
person to run that particular line about the source of the word.

The other common word where there is considerable
dispute about its origins is the word wog.

>>> Pom, is spelt POHM,

>> Wrong. Have a look at the Macquarie Dictionary for example.

> Now why would I have an Australian dictionary when I speak English? ;->

Coz its our usage, not the pom's.

That other 'limey' is a yank usage, not one of the pom's either.

>> Thats just one of the claimed derivations.

> That's all you need have said.

You get no say on what I need have said any time soon.

> Perhaps you could have added your definition
> i.e. that which you beleive to be true.

I did, specially with the spelling.

> I don't suppose the word was pulled from the ether.

I dont suppose it was. Does SFA to substantiate your claim tho.

>>> I'm from England,

>> We each have our cross to bear.

> At least mines on a flag! :-)

So's mine.

>>> that makes me a Limey.

>> And a pom.

>>> Work it out for yourself who the real pohms are :-)

>> You poms.

> What us Brits poms? Well I never. Least
> we have a sense of humour, or do we? ;->

Some of you poms certainly do. Some of us do too.

> BTW IAS, What is an person born in Australia know as?

Depends on who's saying it, just like with the poms.

Toolie writes:

>
>(I asked my ISP to post this indirectly to rec.pets.herp and the ISP
>approved because it contained no profanity or senseless wordings.)

hence the expression - madder than a cut snake
DW

It is understandable that you lesser beings find it necessary to name call.
We should have sterilized the deportees before sending them to the
antipodes. This would have helped the Austrailian wildlife a lot more than
trying to stop the importaiton of a few harmless snakes.
Regards from a happy, snake keeping, Pom.

Rod Speed <rod.speed@usa.net> wrote in message
news:7tevdv$jkd$1@news1.mpx.com.au...
>
> Michael Curry <mcurry@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:q1DK3.4780$lE.27064@ozemail.com.au...
>
> > As a fellow Australian I couldn't agree more. Look how
> > much this country has been stuffed up by importing crap.
>
> Yeah, specially all those damned poms.
>
> > Also nothing is done about it when things get out
> > of hand unless there are significant economic threat.
>
> With the poms its probably because Adolf did get a tad carried away.
>
> > Look at the amount of funding behind rabbit
> > erradication compared to Cane Toad erradication.
>
> And the funding for pom eradication.
>
> > (Also note here that I pity the poor disillusioned sould that
> > claims Cane Toads have had no effect on the environment....)
>
> > It all comes down to the dollar.
>
> Specially with all those poms, there's so many of them. And
> an eradication campaign would need all 'the workers' to be
> fitted with ear protection  against the incessent whingeing.
>
> > The sceme will never get off the ground to
> > import reptiles and sterilise them for pets.
>
> Maybe we could try it with poms. Nar, too much whingeing even when
sterilised.
>
> > A similar thing has already been passed for hamsters
> > and how many of them do you see? None. You know why?
> > Cause no one would pay $1500 for a male castrated hamster.
>
> Or a males castrated pom either.
>
> > If you want to get exotic animals in its just not worth it.
>
> Yeah, plenty of natives who are animals.
>
> > Australians should be looking toward native animals as pets.
>
> Thats mostly illegal too.
>
> > Get rid of the dogs and cats and ferrets and
> > rabbits and guinea pigs (cavies) and rats and
> > mice and other crap that we have here already
>
> Like poms.
>
> > and start pushing native replacements that
> > the environment can handle if they escape...
>
> Dunno, could be a few problems with pet crocodiles.
> Could cause a bit of a stir down the local pool etc.
>
> > There is plenty of great animals here already without importing more
>
> True, no more immigration.
>
> > and most states have a good range of natives you are allowed
> > to keep as pets as long as they have been captive bred.
>
> Dunno, its illegal in all states to do captive breeding of abos now.
>
> > This is where the focus should be.
>
> Dunno, not too many that suitable for say keeping
> the damned druggys from looting your house etc.
>
> > Forget the imports.
>
> The poms are unforgettable.
>
> > GO NATIVE INSTEAD!!!!!
>
> The poms always frowned on anyone who went native.
>
> > Comments appreciated.
>
> Bet they wont be.
>
>
>

David Kershaw <david@kershaw.force9.co.uk> wrote
in message news:BGBL3.3961$Eu.80743@wards...

> It is understandable that you lesser beings find it necessary to name call.

You just did yourself, not a clue to your name, like with most poms.

> We should have sterilized the deportees
> before sending them to the antipodes.

Would have made a hell of a lot more sense to have sterilised
those who sayed in pomland. Then you wouldnt have seen hordes
of them running a mile from that pathetic soggy little island.

> This would have helped the Austrailian wildlife a lot more
> than trying to stop the importaiton of a few harmless snakes.

It would have helped Aust wildlife much more if
you poms handnt turned the place into a gulag on the
other side of the world, for the dregs of your 'society'

You clowns did enough damage with rabbits and foxes alone.

> Regards from a happy, snake keeping, Pom.

Hopefully poisonous snakes.


> Rod Speed <rod.speed@usa.net> wrote
>> Michael Curry <mcurry@bigpond.com> wrote

>>> As a fellow Australian I couldn't agree more. Look how
>>> much this country has been stuffed up by importing crap.

>> Yeah, specially all those damned poms.

>>> Also nothing is done about it when things get out
>>> of hand unless there are significant economic threat.

>> With the poms its probably because Adolf did get a tad carried away.

>>> Look at the amount of funding behind rabbit
>>> erradication compared to Cane Toad erradication.

>> And the funding for pom eradication.

>>> (Also note here that I pity the poor disillusioned sould that
>>> claims Cane Toads have had no effect on the environment....)

>>> It all comes down to the dollar.

>> Specially with all those poms, there's so many of them. And
>> an eradication campaign would need all 'the workers' to be
>> fitted with ear protection  against the incessent whingeing.

>>> The sceme will never get off the ground to
>>> import reptiles and sterilise them for pets.

>> Maybe we could try it with poms. Nar,
>> too much whingeing even when sterilised.

>>> A similar thing has already been passed for hamsters
>>> and how many of them do you see? None. You know why?
>>> Cause no one would pay $1500 for a male castrated hamster.

>> Or a males castrated pom either.

>>> If you want to get exotic animals in its just not worth it.

>> Yeah, plenty of natives who are animals.

>>> Australians should be looking toward native animals as pets.

>> Thats mostly illegal too.

>>> Get rid of the dogs and cats and ferrets and
>>> rabbits and guinea pigs (cavies) and rats and
>>> mice and other crap that we have here already

>> Like poms.

>>> and start pushing native replacements that
>>> the environment can handle if they escape...

>> Dunno, could be a few problems with pet crocodiles.
>> Could cause a bit of a stir down the local pool etc.

>>> There is plenty of great animals here already without importing more

>> True, no more immigration.

>>> and most states have a good range of natives you are allowed
>>> to keep as pets as long as they have been captive bred.

>> Dunno, its illegal in all states to do captive breeding of abos now.

>>> This is where the focus should be.

>> Dunno, not too many that suitable for say keeping
>> the damned druggys from looting your house etc.

>>> Forget the imports.

>> The poms are unforgettable.

>>> GO NATIVE INSTEAD!!!!!

>> The poms always frowned on anyone who went native.

>>> Comments appreciated.

>> Bet they wont be.

Could you guys please insult each other without cross-posting to
rec.pets.herp?  Thank you.:)

--

James Strompolis
Aleph Consultants, Inc.
jimst@enteract.com, http://www.ribs.com


Rod Speed <rod.speed@usa.net> wrote in message
news:7tn2tc$ep8$1@news1.mpx.com.au...
>
> David Kershaw <david@kershaw.force9.co.uk> wrote
> in message news:BGBL3.3961$Eu.80743@wards...
>
> > It is understandable that you lesser beings find it necessary to name
call.
>
> You just did yourself, not a clue to your name, like with most poms.
>
> > We should have sterilized the deportees
> > before sending them to the antipodes.
>
> Would have made a hell of a lot more sense to have sterilised
> those who sayed in pomland. Then you wouldnt have seen hordes
> of them running a mile from that pathetic soggy little island.
>
> > This would have helped the Austrailian wildlife a lot more
> > than trying to stop the importaiton of a few harmless snakes.
>
> It would have helped Aust wildlife much more if
> you poms handnt turned the place into a gulag on the
> other side of the world, for the dregs of your 'society'
>
> You clowns did enough damage with rabbits and foxes alone.
>
> > Regards from a happy, snake keeping, Pom.
>
> Hopefully poisonous snakes.
>
>
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed@usa.net> wrote
> >> Michael Curry <mcurry@bigpond.com> wrote
>
> >>> As a fellow Australian I couldn't agree more. Look how
> >>> much this country has been stuffed up by importing crap.
>
> >> Yeah, specially all those damned poms.
>
> >>> Also nothing is done about it when things get out
> >>> of hand unless there are significant economic threat.
>
> >> With the poms its probably because Adolf did get a tad carried away.
>
> >>> Look at the amount of funding behind rabbit
> >>> erradication compared to Cane Toad erradication.
>
> >> And the funding for pom eradication.
>
> >>> (Also note here that I pity the poor disillusioned sould that
> >>> claims Cane Toads have had no effect on the environment....)
>
> >>> It all comes down to the dollar.
>
> >> Specially with all those poms, there's so many of them. And
> >> an eradication campaign would need all 'the workers' to be
> >> fitted with ear protection  against the incessent whingeing.
>
> >>> The sceme will never get off the ground to
> >>> import reptiles and sterilise them for pets.
>
> >> Maybe we could try it with poms. Nar,
> >> too much whingeing even when sterilised.
>
> >>> A similar thing has already been passed for hamsters
> >>> and how many of them do you see? None. You know why?
> >>> Cause no one would pay $1500 for a male castrated hamster.
>
> >> Or a males castrated pom either.
>
> >>> If you want to get exotic animals in its just not worth it.
>
> >> Yeah, plenty of natives who are animals.
>
> >>> Australians should be looking toward native animals as pets.
>
> >> Thats mostly illegal too.
>
> >>> Get rid of the dogs and cats and ferrets and
> >>> rabbits and guinea pigs (cavies) and rats and
> >>> mice and other crap that we have here already
>
> >> Like poms.
>
> >>> and start pushing native replacements that
> >>> the environment can handle if they escape...
>
> >> Dunno, could be a few problems with pet crocodiles.
> >> Could cause a bit of a stir down the local pool etc.
>
> >>> There is plenty of great animals here already without importing more
>
> >> True, no more immigration.
>
> >>> and most states have a good range of natives you are allowed
> >>> to keep as pets as long as they have been captive bred.
>
> >> Dunno, its illegal in all states to do captive breeding of abos now.
>
> >>> This is where the focus should be.
>
> >> Dunno, not too many that suitable for say keeping
> >> the damned druggys from looting your house etc.
>
> >>> Forget the imports.
>
> >> The poms are unforgettable.
>
> >>> GO NATIVE INSTEAD!!!!!
>
> >> The poms always frowned on anyone who went native.
>
> >>> Comments appreciated.
>
> >> Bet they wont be.
>
>
>

James Strompolis <jimst@enteract.com> wrote in
message news:rqEL3.7432$1a1.358102@elnws01...

> Could you guys please insult each other without cross-posting to rec.pets.herp?

Nope.

> Thank you.:)

Nothing to thank us for |-)

Oh, now I understand.  You're a dick.

--

James Strompolis
Aleph Consultants, Inc.
jimst@enteract.com, http://www.ribs.com


Rod Speed <rod.speed@usa.net> wrote in message
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>
> James Strompolis <jimst@enteract.com> wrote in
> message news:rqEL3.7432$1a1.358102@elnws01...
>
> > Could you guys please insult each other without cross-posting to
rec.pets.herp?
>
> Nope.
>
> > Thank you.:)
>
> Nothing to thank us for |-)
>
>
>

James Strompolis <jimst@enteract.com> wrote in
message news:HJEL3.7433$1a1.358144@elnws01...

> Oh, now I understand.

Nope, you dont, anything at all.

> James Strompolis
> Aleph Consultants, Inc.
> jimst@enteract.com, http://www.ribs.com

Is this where we are sposed to swoon ?

> Nope, you dont, anything at all.

No, really, I do.  It's quite clear.  You're a dick.

--

James Strompolis
Aleph Consultants, Inc.
 jimst@enteract.com, http://www.ribs.com

>
> Is this where we are sposed to swoon ?
>

Yeah, ROFL.

Dear "Hot" Rod,
                            I sit here, basking in the late summer sunshine,
drinking a glass of fine english wine (non of that french muck for me). I am
content in the knowlage that being a Yorkshireman, life can get no better.
We, from Gods own county, unlike all you poor soles born in other parts of
our world, know that we are as near perfection as can be found this side of
the grave. What we offer you is an opportunity to try and emulate perfection
by copying our ways. My one regret is that Austrailia is home to may
interesting reptiles that are unavailable to the rest of the world.
                                                I trust that your day is not
to hot or stressful. Remember, you may have been born an austrailian, but
life could have delt you an even rougher hand, you could have been born in
the land of the fee - an american!!!
                                                Regards            A happly
pom.

Rod Speed <rod.speed@usa.net> wrote in message
news:7tn2tc$ep8$1@news1.mpx.com.au...
>
> David Kershaw <david@kershaw.force9.co.uk> wrote
> in message news:BGBL3.3961$Eu.80743@wards...
>
> > It is understandable that you lesser beings find it necessary to name
call.
>
> You just did yourself, not a clue to your name, like with most poms.
>
> > We should have sterilized the deportees
> > before sending them to the antipodes.
>
> Would have made a hell of a lot more sense to have sterilised
> those who sayed in pomland. Then you wouldnt have seen hordes
> of them running a mile from that pathetic soggy little island.
>
> > This would have helped the Austrailian wildlife a lot more
> > than trying to stop the importaiton of a few harmless snakes.
>
> It would have helped Aust wildlife much more if
> you poms handnt turned the place into a gulag on the
> other side of the world, for the dregs of your 'society'
>
> You clowns did enough damage with rabbits and foxes alone.
>
> > Regards from a happy, snake keeping, Pom.
>
> Hopefully poisonous snakes.
>
>
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed@usa.net> wrote
> >> Michael Curry <mcurry@bigpond.com> wrote
>
> >>> As a fellow Australian I couldn't agree more. Look how
> >>> much this country has been stuffed up by importing crap.
>
> >> Yeah, specially all those damned poms.
>
> >>> Also nothing is done about it when things get out
> >>> of hand unless there are significant economic threat.
>
> >> With the poms its probably because Adolf did get a tad carried away.
>
> >>> Look at the amount of funding behind rabbit
> >>> erradication compared to Cane Toad erradication.
>
> >> And the funding for pom eradication.
>
> >>> (Also note here that I pity the poor disillusioned sould that
> >>> claims Cane Toads have had no effect on the environment....)
>
> >>> It all comes down to the dollar.
>
> >> Specially with all those poms, there's so many of them. And
> >> an eradication campaign would need all 'the workers' to be
> >> fitted with ear protection  against the incessent whingeing.
>
> >>> The sceme will never get off the ground to
> >>> import reptiles and sterilise them for pets.
>
> >> Maybe we could try it with poms. Nar,
> >> too much whingeing even when sterilised.
>
> >>> A similar thing has already been passed for hamsters
> >>> and how many of them do you see? None. You know why?
> >>> Cause no one would pay $1500 for a male castrated hamster.
>
> >> Or a males castrated pom either.
>
> >>> If you want to get exotic animals in its just not worth it.
>
> >> Yeah, plenty of natives who are animals.
>
> >>> Australians should be looking toward native animals as pets.
>
> >> Thats mostly illegal too.
>
> >>> Get rid of the dogs and cats and ferrets and
> >>> rabbits and guinea pigs (cavies) and rats and
> >>> mice and other crap that we have here already
>
> >> Like poms.
>
> >>> and start pushing native replacements that
> >>> the environment can handle if they escape...
>
> >> Dunno, could be a few problems with pet crocodiles.
> >> Could cause a bit of a stir down the local pool etc.
>
> >>> There is plenty of great animals here already without importing more
>
> >> True, no more immigration.
>
> >>> and most states have a good range of natives you are allowed
> >>> to keep as pets as long as they have been captive bred.
>
> >> Dunno, its illegal in all states to do captive breeding of abos now.
>
> >>> This is where the focus should be.
>
> >> Dunno, not too many that suitable for say keeping
> >> the damned druggys from looting your house etc.
>
> >>> Forget the imports.
>
> >> The poms are unforgettable.
>
> >>> GO NATIVE INSTEAD!!!!!
>
> >> The poms always frowned on anyone who went native.
>
> >>> Comments appreciated.
>
> >> Bet they wont be.
>
>
>

James Strompolis <jimst@enteract.com> wrote in
message news:3IFL3.7434$1a1.358155@elnws01...
just the usual juvenile stuff thats all it can ever manage.

David Kershaw <david@kershaw.force9.co.uk> wrote
in message news:56KL3.4108$Eu.87492@wards...

> My one regret is that Austrailia is home to may interesting
> reptiles that are unavailable to the rest of the world.

Mine too, particularly the poisonous ones. The world would be significantly
improved if we exported those to armpits of the world like yours.

Dear "Hot" Rod,
                            I agree, anything that visits my own fair
Yorkshire can only be improved. We welcome all who wish to learn and bloom
into manhood - our emblem is the Rose (would that all armpits could smell as
sweet!)
Are you sure you are Austrailian ? You seem to only have the intellect and
attitude of someone from the land of the fee! (USA).
                                    Regards          A Happly Pom.

Rod Speed <rod.speed@usa.net> wrote in message
news:7to5kl$ci7$1@news1.mpx.com.au...
>
> David Kershaw <david@kershaw.force9.co.uk> wrote
> in message news:56KL3.4108$Eu.87492@wards...
>
> > My one regret is that Austrailia is home to may interesting
> > reptiles that are unavailable to the rest of the world.
>
> Mine too, particularly the poisonous ones. The world would be
significantly
> improved if we exported those to armpits of the world like yours.
>
>

I can think of no better representation of your UK, then the royals hims and
hers you call your masters.
Bless Britain.
So drink a glass of your better wine; dine on your exquisite fare; sit in
the lovely sunshine and say to yourself:
Is this a great country or what!

(Land of the Fee? Is that because, like most of your lost colonies, it cost
your nation so much? Just asking?)

;o)

David Kershaw <david@kershaw.force9.co.uk> wrote in message
news:yV1M3.3569$pN.58047@stones...
> Dear "Hot" Rod,
>                             I agree, anything that visits my own fair
> Yorkshire can only be improved. We welcome all who wish to learn and bloom
> into manhood - our emblem is the Rose (would that all armpits could smell
as
> sweet!)
> Are you sure you are Austrailian ? You seem to only have the intellect and
> attitude of someone from the land of the fee! (USA).
>                                     Regards          A Happly Pom.
>
> Rod Speed <rod.speed@usa.net> wrote in message
> news:7to5kl$ci7$1@news1.mpx.com.au...
> >
> > David Kershaw <david@kershaw.force9.co.uk> wrote
> > in message news:56KL3.4108$Eu.87492@wards...
> >
> > > My one regret is that Austrailia is home to may interesting
> > > reptiles that are unavailable to the rest of the world.
> >
> > Mine too, particularly the poisonous ones. The world would be
> significantly
> > improved if we exported those to armpits of the world like yours.
> >
> >
>
>

> Is this a great country or what!

I can honestly agree to your sarcastic remarks about Britain and Australia.
Australia and the UK are NOT good countries, in fact, quite the very opposite.

I recently was talking to someone who is trying to lobby to get exotic reptiles
legalised here in Australia (hasn't been legal for 30 years!) He reckons it is
purely POLITICAL and to all hell with any conservative principle. In other
words, our Australian politicians are feeding us, what comes from their asses!

And...If you want my personal opinion, the country, the wonderful country that
you happen to live in, is, in my view, the best country in the world - since
you've got no doops telling you what to do every day, no faggots telling you
what is *best* for you.

Wanna know what causes fighting and violence? What?...Want to know?

I'll tell you why! It's the stupid and totally pro-active ignorance that happens
in this country. Violence, rather than being openly suggested, is buried in the
ground. Why bury the hatchet? Why? Why not desecrate this dump of a country that
I live in and find out who our ancestors were. I can almost guarantee they were
some sort of obnoxious pricks - that's for sure.

>
> (Land of the Fee? Is that because, like most of your lost colonies, it cost
> your nation so much? Just asking?)

Benjamin Dowse <bendowse@idx.com.au> wrote in
message news:3802AAC0.7AFAB93@nospam.com...

>> Is this a great country or what!

> I can honestly agree to your sarcastic remarks
> about Britain and Australia. Australia and the UK are
> NOT good countries, in fact, quite the very opposite.

Feel free to leave any time you like. By whatever means.

> I recently was talking to someone who is trying to
> lobby to get exotic reptiles legalised here in Australia
> (hasn't been legal for 30 years!) He reckons it is purely
> POLITICAL and to all hell with any conservative principle.

Doesnt make it gospel just because he says that.

> In other words, our Australian politicians are
> feeding us, what comes from their asses!

It aint actually the pollys that set that sort of basic principle stuff.

> And...If you want my personal opinion,

No thanks, completely worthless. You're rabidly one eyed and
obsessed. And have a very tenuous grip on your sanity to boot.

> the country, the wonderful country that you happen
> to live in, is, in my view, the best country in the world

Feel free to bugger off there any time you like. And lets not
have any more silly stuff about them having enough sense to
not let you in. That clearly hasnt stopped plenty in there already.

> - since you've got no doops telling you what to do every day,

There is plenty of that there.

> no faggots telling you what is *best* for you.

Ditto in spades.

> Wanna know what causes fighting and violence? What?...Want to know?

Complete loonys like you most of the time.

> I'll tell you why!

Thought you might.

> It's the stupid and totally pro-active ignorance that happens in this country.

Wrong again. And you might care to compare say
the murder rate in the US with the murder rate here
some time too. And pomland too for that matter.

> Violence, rather than being openly suggested, is buried in the ground.

Thats what happens to the corpses violence
produces. At least TRY to keep up.

> Why bury the hatchet? Why?

Why not ?

> Why not desecrate this dump of a country that
> I live in and find out who our ancestors were.

Que ?  Look up the word desecrate some time.

> I can almost guarantee they were some
> sort of obnoxious pricks - that's for sure.

Yours, very likely.

I used to be indifferent - now, I just dont care. :)

- Bill

David Kershaw <david@kershaw.force9.co.uk> wrote in message
news:jGmO3.10488$Eu.155754@wards...
> Dear American Missy,
>                                         I concede, I am/was wrong. There
is
> good, bad and indifferent people to be found in all nations.
>                 Regards   David
>
> missy <nonya@business.com> wrote in message
> news:DQ2O3.9530$E_1.509114@typ11.nn.bcandid.com...
> , there a many
> > that have credible information and it would be a terrible shame to waste
> it
> > just because they work for a pet store.  I just want for people to
> remember
> > how harmful broad spectrum assumptions can be.  It's been the basis for
> many
> > civil problems throughout the world.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

I think that in theory its a great idea, but financially can you see
the anyone putting in the finance needed to set up long term limited
breeding programs for animals to be kept as pets?  It would require
sponsorship and a lot of money because of the small demand etc.

On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 17:27:17 +1000, Toolie <toolie.nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

>Hello folks.
>
>(I asked my ISP to post this indirectly to rec.pets.herp and the ISP
>approved because it contained no profanity or senseless wordings.)
>
>Since I've been reading several books on the destruction that introduced
>species can do to Australia, I have come to the conclusion that reptiles
>should be sterilized before they are sold to anyone. Australia has not
>got the right predators to keep exotic reptile numbers down.
>
>But...I have a question...Would de-sexed exotic reptiles cause a serious
>problem to Australia?
>
>This is a pretty good system that I've worked out. This is my solution.
>
>(1) Good quality healthy breeding pairs of harmless reptiles are
>imported, and quarantined for a period of time until such time as they
>can be properly tested and assumed virus and disease free.
>
>(2) These animals are then sent to government approved breeding
>institutions, the reptiles would be bred in such institutions under
>strict guidelines. A good security system would be used to ensure that
>intruders don't take the animals. Animals would be locked away in secure
>housing internally with bullet-proof glass to ensure that if an intruder
>should break in, the animals would be inaccessible to any such intruder.
>
>(3) The hatchlings are checked, and hatchlings that are of the highest
>quality are held back and used for breeding better bloodlines. The rest
>of the hatchlings are then routinely sterilized (de-sexed) and then sold
>to collectors and such for a reasonable price.
>
>(4) The people who wish to collect such reptiles must have a permit that
>is obtained by a government department. The license is just used as a
>way to control the number of people obtaining the animals and would
>alleviate any fears by animal welfare groups or conservationist groups,
>that these animals would pose any threat at all. The cost of a license
>would be a reasonable price per year.
>
>This would be the BEST system for would-be exotic reptile collectors in
>Australia.
>
>Since most reptiles, if properly looked after, can last a very long time
>(around 20 years). And since they cannot breed due to being sterilized,
>they don't pose any threat as far as becoming feral is concerned.
>
>What do you think?
>
>

Hello!(First sorry for my bad english)
I dont know for what reason anyone would or should keep sterilized
animals!?
You cant breed them to support endangered Species (and gouvernment
breeding will only look for quantity) and sterilized animals would never
show all of their behaviour. So no scientific reward is given.
I think its a bad idea.
Greetings
M. G�tz



> On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 17:27:17 +1000, Toolie <toolie.nospam@nospam.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >Hello folks.
> >
> >(I asked my ISP to post this indirectly to rec.pets.herp and the ISP
> >approved because it contained no profanity or senseless wordings.)
> >
> >Since I've been reading several books on the destruction that introduced
> >species can do to Australia, I have come to the conclusion that reptiles
> >should be sterilized before they are sold to anyone. Australia has not
> >got the right predators to keep exotic reptile numbers down.
> >
> >But...I have a question...Would de-sexed exotic reptiles cause a serious
> >problem to Australia?
> >
> >This is a pretty good system that I've worked out. This is my solution.
> >
> >(1) Good quality healthy breeding pairs of harmless reptiles are
> >imported, and quarantined for a period of time until such time as they
> >can be properly tested and assumed virus and disease free.
> >
> >(2) These animals are then sent to government approved breeding
> >institutions, the reptiles would be bred in such institutions under
> >strict guidelines. A good security system would be used to ensure that
> >intruders don't take the animals. Animals would be locked away in secure
> >housing internally with bullet-proof glass to ensure that if an intruder
> >should break in, the animals would be inaccessible to any such intruder.
> >
> >(3) The hatchlings are checked, and hatchlings that are of the highest
> >quality are held back and used for breeding better bloodlines. The rest
> >of the hatchlings are then routinely sterilized (de-sexed) and then sold
> >to collectors and such for a reasonable price.
> >
> >(4) The people who wish to collect such reptiles must have a permit that
> >is obtained by a government department. The license is just used as a
> >way to control the number of people obtaining the animals and would
> >alleviate any fears by animal welfare groups or conservationist groups,
> >that these animals would pose any threat at all. The cost of a license
> >would be a reasonable price per year.
> >
> >This would be the BEST system for would-be exotic reptile collectors in
> >Australia.
> >
> >Since most reptiles, if properly looked after, can last a very long time
> >(around 20 years). And since they cannot breed due to being sterilized,
> >they don't pose any threat as far as becoming feral is concerned.
> >
> >What do you think?
> >
> >

I think you are nuts.  Having the government control a breeding program for
the pet trade.  You know with the high security and bullet proof glass you
speak of, your going to end up paying $1000 for a ball python.
I think if anyone has that kind of money for such a common animal, they'll
find a way around the law.


> > On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 17:27:17 +1000, Toolie <toolie.nospam@nospam.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Hello folks.
> > >
> > >(I asked my ISP to post this indirectly to rec.pets.herp and the ISP
> > >approved because it contained no profanity or senseless wordings.)
> > >
> > >Since I've been reading several books on the destruction that
introduced
> > >species can do to Australia, I have come to the conclusion that
reptiles
> > >should be sterilized before they are sold to anyone. Australia has not
> > >got the right predators to keep exotic reptile numbers down.
> > >
> > >But...I have a question...Would de-sexed exotic reptiles cause a
serious
> > >problem to Australia?
> > >
> > >This is a pretty good system that I've worked out. This is my solution.
> > >
> > >(1) Good quality healthy breeding pairs of harmless reptiles are
> > >imported, and quarantined for a period of time until such time as they
> > >can be properly tested and assumed virus and disease free.
> > >
> > >(2) These animals are then sent to government approved breeding
> > >institutions, the reptiles would be bred in such institutions under
> > >strict guidelines. A good security system would be used to ensure that
> > >intruders don't take the animals. Animals would be locked away in
secure
> > >housing internally with bullet-proof glass to ensure that if an
intruder
> > >should break in, the animals would be inaccessible to any such
intruder.
> > >
> > >(3) The hatchlings are checked, and hatchlings that are of the highest
> > >quality are held back and used for breeding better bloodlines. The rest
> > >of the hatchlings are then routinely sterilized (de-sexed) and then
sold
> > >to collectors and such for a reasonable price.
> > >
> > >(4) The people who wish to collect such reptiles must have a permit
that
> > >is obtained by a government department. The license is just used as a
> > >way to control the number of people obtaining the animals and would
> > >alleviate any fears by animal welfare groups or conservationist groups,
> > >that these animals would pose any threat at all. The cost of a license
> > >would be a reasonable price per year.
> > >
> > >This would be the BEST system for would-be exotic reptile collectors in
> > >Australia.
> > >
> > >Since most reptiles, if properly looked after, can last a very long
time
> > >(around 20 years). And since they cannot breed due to being sterilized,
> > >they don't pose any threat as far as becoming feral is concerned.
> > >
> > >What do you think?
> > >
> > >

Reptilz <eihs@home.com> wrote in message
news:7JMf4.26414$Iw6.1160441@news.rdc1.il.home.com...
> I think you are nuts.  Having the government control a breeding program
for
> the pet trade.  You know with the high security and bullet proof glass you
> speak of, your going to end up paying $1000 for a ball python.
> I think if anyone has that kind of money for such a common animal, they'll
> find a way around the law.
>
>
He is talking about here in Australia, the only way for us to get Ball
Pythons is to find a "way around the law" - to get a ball python here right
now would be much more than $1000 any way.

- Bill
> > > On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 17:27:17 +1000, Toolie <toolie.nospam@nospam.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >Hello folks.
> > > >
> > > >(I asked my ISP to post this indirectly to rec.pets.herp and the ISP
> > > >approved because it contained no profanity or senseless wordings.)
> > > >
> > > >Since I've been reading several books on the destruction that
> introduced
> > > >species can do to Australia, I have come to the conclusion that
> reptiles
> > > >should be sterilized before they are sold to anyone. Australia has
not
> > > >got the right predators to keep exotic reptile numbers down.
> > > >
> > > >But...I have a question...Would de-sexed exotic reptiles cause a
> serious
> > > >problem to Australia?
> > > >
> > > >This is a pretty good system that I've worked out. This is my
solution.
> > > >
> > > >(1) Good quality healthy breeding pairs of harmless reptiles are
> > > >imported, and quarantined for a period of time until such time as
they
> > > >can be properly tested and assumed virus and disease free.
> > > >
> > > >(2) These animals are then sent to government approved breeding
> > > >institutions, the reptiles would be bred in such institutions under
> > > >strict guidelines. A good security system would be used to ensure
that
> > > >intruders don't take the animals. Animals would be locked away in
> secure
> > > >housing internally with bullet-proof glass to ensure that if an
> intruder
> > > >should break in, the animals would be inaccessible to any such
> intruder.
> > > >
> > > >(3) The hatchlings are checked, and hatchlings that are of the
highest
> > > >quality are held back and used for breeding better bloodlines. The
rest
> > > >of the hatchlings are then routinely sterilized (de-sexed) and then
> sold
> > > >to collectors and such for a reasonable price.
> > > >
> > > >(4) The people who wish to collect such reptiles must have a permit
> that
> > > >is obtained by a government department. The license is just used as a
> > > >way to control the number of people obtaining the animals and would
> > > >alleviate any fears by animal welfare groups or conservationist
groups,
> > > >that these animals would pose any threat at all. The cost of a
license
> > > >would be a reasonable price per year.
> > > >
> > > >This would be the BEST system for would-be exotic reptile collectors
in
> > > >Australia.
> > > >
> > > >Since most reptiles, if properly looked after, can last a very long
> time
> > > >(around 20 years). And since they cannot breed due to being
sterilized,
> > > >they don't pose any threat as far as becoming feral is concerned.
> > > >
> > > >What do you think?
> > > >
> > > >
>
>

> He is talking about here in Australia, the only way for us to get Ball
> Pythons is to find a "way around the law" - to get a ball python here
right
> now would be much more than $1000 any way.

Which is probably why the cunts here in Australia would absolutely love to
keep the ban rolling, because the pricks can make money doing it this way.

Perhaps there is some sort of hidden agenda. If I ever find out that this is
some sort of conspiracy, I would personally arrange to have whoever was
involved killed or silenced permanently so as that they would never ever
speak or walk again...

Hear me?

Tinker <tweebie@nospam.com> wrote in
message news:85pbb6$1bj$1@news1.mpx.com.au...

>> He is talking about here in Australia, the only way for us to
>> get Ball Pythons is to find a "way around the law" - to get a ball
>> python here right now would be much more than $1000 any way.

> Which is probably why the cunts here in Australia would absolutely love to
> keep the ban rolling, because the pricks can make money doing it this way.

> Perhaps there is some sort of hidden agenda.

Or perhaps you havent been taking your medication. Again.

> If I ever find out that this is some sort of conspiracy, I would personally
> arrange to have whoever was involved killed or silenced permanently
> so as that they would never ever speak or walk again...

> Hear me?

The cops will certainly do if that ever happens to any of them boy.