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Article #1Re: Will there ever be a Vaccine to HIV?
From: Carlton Hogan
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 1995 17:04
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 1995 17:04
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In article <NEWTNews.4369.793953004.craiga@craiga.rmii.com> craiga@craiga.rmii.com writes: > >In article <01HNIE0TB0JE8ZFDCT@vaxc.hofstra.edu>, ><mic2mcb@leeds.ac.uk> writes: >> I am a final year student of microbiology at the University >of Leeds and i am > >Actually, there is a company working on a vaccine, headed by >Jonas Salk. There preliminary work has shown promise, however >they are fighting with the FDA regarding the third clinical >trial. The company is named Immune Response. The second >clinical trial were criticized by the FDA, as the company did >not do them as the FDA, wanted them done. Sounded like >stonewalling to me. They are way ahead of anyone regarding >this issue. Food for thought. > While it is fashionable to bash FDA, this is a way overly paranoid interpretation. Very pressing and relevant questions about potentially deceptive trials methodology were raised, not by FDA, but by a joint meeting of the antivirals and biologics advisory board-- an independent group of consultants that includes community clinicians, diverse researchers, bioethicists, PWAs, etc. I haven't gotten the full transcript of that meeting from the FDA Freedom-of-information-act office, but I am aware of some of the panel's criticisms-- among them the misrepresentation of non-statistically significant trends as findings, and the use of post-hoc analyses. If the vaccine is truly good, it should stand up to the same critical inquiry as is expected for all treatments. This bending of the rules makes one wonder how much confidence Immune Response has in their own product... It's also interesting that what they did was not incredibly different from what Robert Redfield did with the Army's gp160 trials, yet the community reponse was very different. Could it be perhaps, that this is so because one was the US army, and the other a very sophisticated and slick biotech companty that has gone out of it's way to court the affections of the activist community? Finally, I think all of this is tangential to the original post: I believe that the poster was discussing preventative vaccines, not therapeutic vaccines (which is what the Salk Immunogen purports to be) Carlton _______________________________________________________________________ | | | Carlton Hogan (carlton@gopher.ccbr.umn.edu) | | Community Programs for Clinical Research on AIDS Statistical Center | | Coordinating Center for Biometric Research | | Division of Biostatistics, School of Public Health | | University of Minnesota | | 2221 University Ave SE, Suite 200 Voice: (612) 626 8899 | | Minneapolis MN 55414 FAX: (612) 626 8892 | |_____________________________________________________________________| Affiliation Provided for Sake of Identification, not Representation
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107c0a,a6218a918651cd22 X-Google-Attributes: gid107c0a,public X-Google-Thread: f8e9b,a6218a918651cd22 X-Google-Attributes: gidf8e9b,public X-Google-Thread: 167e87,d18e1d69be1ba141 X-Google-Attributes: gid167e87,public X-Google-Thread: ff2c4,a6218a918651cd22 X-Google-Attributes: gidff2c4,public X-Google-Thread: 11045f,a6218a918651cd22 X-Google-Attributes: gid11045f,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1995-03-03 17:35:39 PST Newsgroups: sci.bio.microbiolo,sci.bio,misc.health.aids,bionet.molbio.hiv,bionet.immunology Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!bga.com!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!udel!news.mathworks.com!newshost.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!umn.edu!gopher.ccbr.umn.edu!carlton From: carlton@gopher.ccbr.umn.edu (Carlton Hogan) Subject: Re: Will there ever be a Vaccine to HIV? Message-ID: <D4vJFG.3vs@news.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Nntp-Posting-Host: gopher.ccbr.umn.edu Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis References: <01HNIE0TB0JE8ZFDCT@vaxc.hofstra.edu> <NEWTNews.4369.793953004.craiga@craiga.rmii.com> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 17:04:55 GMT Lines: 59