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Re: Are Humans Naturally Monogamous?

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From: Rod VAN MECHELEN
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 1990 01:36
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In article <955@accucx.cc.ruu.nl>, aritoxm@accucx.cc.ruu.nl (Henk Verhaar) writes:
> In article <1990Nov13.094216.1797@desire.wright.edu> sbishop@desire.wright.edu writes:
> [lots o'babble deleted]
> >
> >Ah, yes, Rod, the guy who insists that breast milk is bad for babies.  BTW,

I've been wading through ... POSTINGS! <-; ... on talk.abortion.  So many
that I guess I've just plain forgotten I said breast milk was "bad."  Would
you be so kind as to refresh my memory on this? <-:

Now, I do recall observing breast milk is not the best thing for babies and
that I would advocate weaning as soon as possible.  However, if you will note
right from my very first post on this subject, implicit was the expectation
that the child would start out on breast milk.




> >we never did hear any real sensible reason why you felt this way.  If I 
> >remember correctly you said that American women don't eat enough protein to
> >produce good milk....  Obviously the remark of a trained diatician...

I mentioned this in an email response to another poster who emailed me
about it, and I think I also later posted as much.  But I have never
made any secret of the fact I am not a professional diatician and that
I find most such "professionals" amusing.

Diaticians are trained according to the practical application of various
theories.  Theories hold little interest for me -- I'm interested in what
works.  <-:



> >Considering that the average American's diet is overloaded with protein.  

According to the FDA, AMA, AOA, APA, and several other letters <-: you're
absolutely right.  But as athletes have known for years, it's bogus.  Take
a gander at some of the publications no self-respecting dietition would 
be caught reading (other than in the bathroom with the door closed, perhaps <-:)
such as M&F, Flex, and other bodybuilder mags.  Now, although "professionals"
may hold publishers of such magazines in contempt, they do do honest to goodness
research where what is called for is not minimum acceptable health or the
treatment of the ill, but optimum health and longevity.  And what they
have found is, as we would expect dietitions to know, there are people
who need high-fat diets, people who need high-carbo diets, people who need
high-protein diets, and people who fit somewhere in between.  And what
their studies indicate is that most folks in America, regardless of what
type they are, eat too little protein for *optimum* health.  

But then, another thing the AMA has long held in contempt and only recently
has begun to accept is ... bodybuilding.  After all, the last thing the
"health" professionals figure they need is a population of optimally
healthy people (as my doctor says every time I go for a checkup -- if all
my patients were like you, I'd be out of business. <-:)  Fortunately, *some*
health professionals *really* are advocates of optimum health.





> In case you're really interested: Breast milk is supposedly bad for babies
> because of the high average polychlorodibenzodioxin, polychlorodibenzofuran
> and polychlorobiphenyl content. Theory is that these high levels of dioxin
> and 'dioxin-workalikes' (in some toxicological senses, that is) seriously
> interfere with the vitamin K metabolism in neonates (newly borns), thus,
> again very seriously, interfering with their blood-clotting system.

I'm sure glad we got that cleared up!  But personally I wouldn't worry 
about it too much -- the amount of dioxin (and dioxin emulators) are
insignificant.  Especially if weaning is done soon.  But, again, as has
always been implicit in my postings, "weaning" presupposes breast-feeding.
Or does your hostility require something else of me?




> 
> Hope this helps :)
> Henk Verhaar <aritoxm@accucx.cc.ruu.nl OR aritoxm@accucx.UUCP>

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Rod
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