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Re: "Falling" Asleep

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From: Richard Winder
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 00:46
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In article <103986@netnews.upenn.edu>, rowe@pender.ee.upenn.edu (Mickey Rowe)
writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.182906.23437@spruce.pfc.forestry.ca>
>     rwinder@PFC.Forestry.CA writes:
>>>>rowe@pender.ee.upenn.edu (Mickey Rowe) writes:
>>>>>I also think this is a bit of nonsense.  You're presupposing that 
>>>>outer events (e.g. body positions) play a strong role in your dream 
>>>>content.  

>>Q.v. Ann Faraday's "The Dream Game".  The above statement contradicts what most
>>research has shown to date.  Body position can play an extreme role in dream
>>content (or outer events, for that matter).  I would have to say that anyone
>>who has never experienced this (e.g. incorporating an alarm clock into your
>>dream so you don't have to wake up) should scrutinize their own dreams a bit
>>more carefully.  
>
>I not only agree that outer events *can* play a role in dream content,
>*I'm* the person that mentioned the alarm clock incorporation in a
>previous post.

Asleep at the switch!  I apologize for the memory lapse.

>
>In context, what I'm objecting to is Ken Easlon's claim that, for
>example, sleeping with your knees bent makes it more likely that you
>will dream of walking up stairs.  I'm very dubious that your sleeping
>position plays that strong of a role in shaping the content of your
>dreams.  
>

I still disagree (again from personal experience, though I doubt if it is
unique).  Restricting leg movement (via sleeping cats, tangled bedclothing,
etc.) results in a pronounced difficulty in dream walking.  Ever see a time
lapse video of people sleeping?  They gyrate like crazy, particularly with
shuffling ankle motions.  Sleeping in awkward positions often results in the
position being translated to the dream.  Again, I believe that it is a matter
of residual awareness in the L hemisphere, rather than switching awareness
completely on or off.  At any rate, we are a bit off the subject, since clear
dreaming occurs in REM states far later than the onset of myocolonic spams,
which occur during the first few seconds of dozing-off.

  RICHARD WINDER                    Title: Visiting Fellow
  Forestry Canada                   Phone: (604) 363-0600
  Victoria, B.C.                    Internet: RWINDER@A1.PFC.Forestry.CA
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