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Article #2844Re: Brainsize - the great brain race
From: Stan Friesen
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 18:07
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 18:07
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In article <C0LJ17.LJu@newcastle.ac.uk>, w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk writes: |> The paper says "Jerison discovered that repiles were |> small-brained 300 million years ago and remain so today. |> His plot (logarithmic) of brain size against body size for |> every known reptile species, extant and extinct, produced |> a straight line. The |> dinosaurs, many of which had much bigger bodies than living |> reptiles, fall |> squarely on this line, belying the myth that they lumbered to |> extinction because they were especially stupid." Hmm, this seems to contradict what I have seen in other sources. For theropod dinosaurs, at least, the regression line I have seen falls slightly above that for typical reptiles. Of course it is true that if you lump all dinosaurs together you get a result that is essentially the same as for other reptiles. [That is the large brains of theropods and the small brains of sauropods cancel each other out]. |> ----------------------- |> You say birds have brains almost as large as mammals. According |> to some of Jerison's work there is actually a massive overlap between |> the brain size (relative to body size) of mammal species and of bird |> species Yep, that there is. But, given the spread around the averaged regression line, this is not quite the same thing as saying they have the *same* brain size. I do believe that the avian regression line is slightly below that of mammals. An interesting note - the largest brained dinosaurs (Stenonychosaurus and its close relatives) actually fall in the lower avian range (That is the relative brain size is above that of the smallest-brained birds). -- sarima@teradata.com (formerly tdatirv!sarima) or Stanley.Friesen@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!tdat!tools3!swf From: swf@tools3teradata.com (Stan Friesen) Newsgroups: sci.bio Subject: Re: Brainsize - the great brain race Message-ID: <1722@tdat.teradata.COM> Date: 10 Jan 93 18:07:46 GMT References: <C0Dt77.Cnn@newcastle.ac.uk> <1704@tdat.teradata.COM> <C0LJ17.LJu@newcastle.ac.uk> Sender: news@tdat.teradata.COM Distribution: world Organization: NCR Teradata Database Business Unit Lines: 38