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In article <1993Mar31.071008.6915@Princeton.EDU> niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent) writes:
>In article <1993Mar30.184548.28977@oracle.us.oracle.com> mfriedma@us.oracle.com (Michael Friedman) writes:

>>Jeff Sicherman blatantly lies in his post below...

>But only if you're stupid enough, like Michael Friedman, to be unable to
>understand the English language...

No, I understand it, but you can't have it both ways.

Either Bush just kept the meetings secret - which was totally legal,
ask the courts - or Bush kept the members secret, which he didn't, but
which would have been illegal and equivalent to Clinton's actions.
Either way, Jeff Sicherman attempts to mislead us.  We can argue over
whether or not it is a blatant lie, but it's clearly not the truth.

>>In article <C4LAow.7zw@csulb.edu> sichermn@csulb.edu (Jeff Sicherman) writes:
>>>In <26MAR199313552586@cc.utah.edu> djs1539@cc.utah.edu(SEGAL, DAVID JAY) says:
>>>>In article <SMITH.93Mar24182949@minerva.harvard.edu>, smith@minerva.harvard.edu (Steven Smith) writes...

>>>>{The WSJ requested help identifying these individuals, so I scanned the
>>>>{list and present it here along with the accompanying article with the
>>>>{hope that it will help to illuminate these proceedings whose outcome
>>>>{could affect all Americans and their progeny, but are nevertheless
>>>>{insulated from public inspection and debate.

>>>>What's the big deal?  There are hundreds of committees in Washington.  Most
>>>>people don't know who's on them; most people don't care.  Why don't you
>>>>wait to see what they come up with and spend your energy evaluating that?
>>>>Isn't the message more important than the messenger?  

>>>  Also note that these whiners were nowhere to be found when Danny's
>>>Cabal on Competitiveness held its secret meetings to overturn
>>>regulations which had been arrived at through the open proposal
>>>and comment process.

>>The Bush administration didn't try to keep the names of the members of
>>the Council on Competitiveness secret.  Jeff, you are a liar.

>And, of course, Jeff never said that the Bush administration did do
>this.  What Jeff said, and what the Bush admin. did do, was keep the
>actual *meetings* secret.

>Meetings at which policies/regulations were enacted, not just discussed.

Wrongo.

Legally, there is no such thing as a policy.

I challenge you to find a regulation enacted by the Council on
Competitiveness.