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Article #4744Re: parthanogenesis
From: John Reed
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1993 23:29
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1993 23:29
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In article <loats1.749942282@husc9>, James Loats <loats1@husc9.harvard.edu> wrote: >>I am interest in knowing whether parthanogenesis has evolved in the male >>sex of any species. I would presume not, for evolutionary reasons, but I >>would like to know for sure. I would also like to know other peoples >>opinions as to why this has not occured. > >Well, my own opinion as to why this has/would not occur is more for >physiological than "evolutionary" reasons: males don't do parthenogenesis >because if they did, they'd be called females. My understanding is that >"male" and "female" are defined in general by the relative motility of >their gametes (i.e. "sperm/pollen" are motile, "eggs/ova" are not), and >consequently, in those species which "give birth", by who bears the young >or lays the egg. Why couldn't a motile gamete parthenogeneses (as you say, verb form?). The reason I presumed it never occured was that motile gametes don't have the surrounding tissues (placenta, endosperm) for the developing emryo, whether it is derived from parthogenesis or fertilization. I still don't see any real reason you COULDN'T have parthenogenesis in males, just a good explanation for why it is at least less common. So far I haven't got any replies indicating that it does occur in ANY male of ANY species on Earth. >-- >Jim Loats * "I pass the test. I shall diminish, >loats1@husc.harvard.edu * and go into the West, and remain >Bacterial Motor Works--the * Galadriel." >Ultimate Swimming Machine! * -- J.R.R. Tolkien -------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Reed College of Forest Resources, AR-10 University of Washington Seattle, WA 98195 Internet: johnreed@u.washington.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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