Attempt to sink a Norwegian whale boat

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4 total messages Started by Sigurd Tjelmeland Thu, 31 Dec 1992 09:22

#2656

Author: Sigurd Tjelmeland
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 09:22

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Recently there was an attempt to sink the Norwegian
whale boat "Nybrenna" at quay. The organization
"Sea Shepherd" (Paul Watson) claimed responsibility.

What is the subscribers opinion of such actions?

Sigurd Tjelmeland
Institute of Marine Research, Bergen, Norway.

e-mail: sigurd@imr.no

Re: Attempt to sink a Norwegian whale boat

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Author: H.C. Pulley
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 13:24

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In article <1992Dec31.092242.27862@alf.uib.no> sigurd@kildin.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Sigurd Tjelmeland) writes:
>Recently there was an attempt to sink the Norwegian
>whale boat "Nybrenna" at quay. The organization
>"Sea Shepherd" (Paul Watson) claimed responsibility.
>
>What is the subscribers opinion of such actions?

I think that this is going too far.

I was a member of GreenPeace a few years ago.  I was not a member who went out
and physically intervened myself, I was only a support canvasser.

I believe that intervention as a method of stopping whaling is OK, but an 
attempt to destroy property or harm/kill people is going much too far.

Environmental terrorism is not the answer.

Harry
-- 
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Re: Attempt to sink a Norwegian whale boat

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Author: Joe Trott
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 17:14

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sigurd@kildin.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Sigurd Tjelmeland) writes:

>Recently there was an attempt to sink the Norwegian
>whale boat "Nybrenna" at quay. The organization
>"Sea Shepherd" (Paul Watson) claimed responsibility.

>What is the subscribers opinion of such actions?

They are wrong, pure and simple, because they represent the initiatory use of
force.  I'm not saying that slaughtering whales is a necessarily desirable
thing; perhaps I have as much right to the whales as does the slaughterer
(but this is meaningless) and would rather they be kept alive, but I do *not*
have the right to initiate the use of force against someone for disagreeing
with me.
Individuals performing such actions are terrorists, who, upon conviction,
should be shot (afterall, do you want *your* money used to support them in
jail?).

-JTT

Re: Attempt to sink a Norwegian whale boat

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Author: Crystal
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 22:15

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In <1992Dec31.132451.25563@csx.cciw.ca> hcp@csx.cciw.ca (H.C. Pulley) writes:

>In article <1992Dec31.092242.27862@alf.uib.no> sigurd@kildin.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Sigurd Tjelmeland) writes:
>>Recently there was an attempt to sink the Norwegian
>>whale boat "Nybrenna" at quay. The organization
>>"Sea Shepherd" (Paul Watson) claimed responsibility.
>>
>>What is the subscribers opinion of such actions?

>I think that this is going too far.

>I was a member of GreenPeace a few years ago.  I was not a member who went out
>and physically intervened myself, I was only a support canvasser.

>I believe that intervention as a method of stopping whaling is OK, but an 
>attempt to destroy property or harm/kill people is going much too far.

>Environmental terrorism is not the answer.

>Harry
>-- 
>         hcp@csx.cciw.ca          |This message released|It takes all kinds,
>   hcpiv@grumpy.cis.uoguelph.ca   |to the PUBLIC DOMAIN.|and to each his own.
>----------------------------------+---------------------|This thought in mind,
>Stay away from the DOS side, Luke!|Un*x don't play that.|I walk alone.


I vote "no" to vandalism of any sort, no matter what the cause is for.

Education is key.  
Compassion would be nice...but where money is involved, it seems like it
goes out the window...:<

Maybe ads showing that "macho whalers" are really low-life brainless scum would
help?  (of course, that sort of ad didn't seem to deter smoking...*sigh*)
 

 Ah, well...just randomw thoughts here...

Crystal
  ;>

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